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i didn't know that was even possible....
and damn quick....
The only thing I can think of is a back-door deal that allows Apple to survive regardless of the market's state while M$ avoids another antitrust lawsuit.
I hope people hack the hell out of it!!!
@OB81, Yeah I know.. The developers over OSX86 are working very hard indeed. Expect more refined releases in the future. This is just the beginning.
And Apple will not release a PC version because it can not support it.There is a lot of diferent hardware in PC's and MacOS is not ready for that.They only have drivers for few devices,parts.
Supporting lots of hardware will shatter the "well known stability" of MacOS.
What kind of format do you use for the hard drive? HFS+? And what software allow these kind of format?
if they give you their operating system.. they only make a measly $129 off the people who actually pay for it instead of steal it.
instead, they make several thousand off people to buy macs.
So are you implying that OS X is secure because of the lower market share than Windows? If so this mindset is entirely off base as this type of thinking would imply that NeXt or BeOS would be even MORE secure than OS X. An operating systems security is NOT tied to its marketshare. HOWEVER attempts to hack it will increase but these attempts will only be successful IF the OS is insecure.
Much like the house in the woods... just because it's never been broken into because nobody is around makes the door lock better than the one in the city that has a break-in attempt every night
Either OS X is secure or it's not additional marketshare will NOT make a difference. Just maybe speedup finding the problems.
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They can't afford to support it. Think about the diversity of hardware on PCs. By "locking" their OS to a very specifically chosen subset of the available PC hardware, they don't have to worry about somebody that just bought a $200 emachine piece of crap where every shortcut available has been taken in the hardware, with one-off chipsets that "sorta" match a published specs, etc.
So, really, it's not idiotic at all.
That is such total BS. First off, it's not Apple's job to support eighty bajillion pieces of hardware. Second, if they released a version of OS X for beige box PCs, (discounting the fact that it would cut into their hardware sales, though as badly as some would think) the wave of adoption that would follow would encourage hardware makers that don't already provide OS X drivers to do so.
Yes, releasing OS X for beige boxes would cut into Apple hardware sales. But the margins on hardware are crap to begin with, especially compared to the margins on software, and the sales of OS X for beige boxes would more than make up for lost hardware sales.
I fully believe that Apple realizes this, and that they're going to do it eventually. Why? Because Steve Jobs says they aren't. Recall that this is the same guy who spent years touting the superiority of PowerPC over x86, and claimed that video support on the iPod wasn't going to happen.
Apple is not a stupid company; with their market share increasing daily, and their coffers stuffed with cash, they have to know that very, very soon they will have the ability to give Microsoft something very, very big to worry over.
They would shoot themselves in the face if they were to sell OSX in a state that could be installed by default on any PC. The average user who wants to run OSX on a regular PC would likely not pay for it anyway. Most home users who actually install their own OS pirate it these days.
The majority of legitimate Windows installs out there were done by an OEM.
Apple stands to lose more than they could gain from selling OSX for regular PC's.
They are in the game to make money, not satisfy people who currently don't agree with their business model. If you want to run a stable copy of OSX, you will buy a Mac. Many more people are doing this all the time. This is a profitable situation for Apple.
Why would they kill it?
First, Apple got burned by depending on third party applications in the very early years of the mac. The result was Windows, and slow or no development of Office for the mac. Microsoft wanted them to make the Mac System for the Intel system, Apple said no, and, well, the rest is history. Whether that institutional memory should have any effect on their decision making now or not, it does.
Second, Apple makes pretty decent profits on hardware. (In fact, they make more profits than Microsoft excluding their monopoly Windows and Office) and is a much smaller company.
If you haven't seen the news, their formula seems to be working. Their profits are up, their market share, especially among laptops is up, so, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Just from a practical point of view, having to support less hardware makes it easier for the OS to be stable.
Having said that, I've run 10.4 on a PC and if it had better drivers, it would have been a great machine.
Anyhow, nice article.
~mac.nub
Security through Obscurity is complete nonsense. If OSX is as secure as we all know it is, the number of people using it should have little to no effect.
The whole windows is insecure because so many use it (and is thus a hacker magnet) argument is just a line windows users/devs give to justify its insecurities.
People of other OS's should not fall into that line of thinking because it is just a FUD trap.
Exactly. Apple is a hardware company. They make software only so people will buy their hardware. End result - they won't ever support OSX on anything else. But i betcha they don't get too upset about people porting it if they buy a copy first. If it works like crap because of driver issues, but people otherwise like it, they might be inspired to buy a Mac. And that should make Cupertino happy.
Read up on the history of MS and how they became the dominant OS. In short, they let people pirate Windows and that resulted in a huge, huge market share slice. Apple is very smart in this area and are following the same tactic. They dont officially support OSX on x86, but they don't make it hard to install on x86 either, thereby gaining a foothold in the PC world for free. If they released a commercial version of OSX for PCs at this stage, they'd have to compete with MS...and no one that has competed with MS for the PC desktop has survived. Apple is just taking the intelligent road to desktop dominance.
Mac OS X is already a lot less stable on Mac Pros for the very reason that the number of possible system configurations is much greater, since you can get into the machine and change things, unlike with any other model of Mac.
And Apple arent competing with Microsoft, they are doing their own thing in the same market as Dell, HP, IBM AND Microsoft.
Maybe one day OS X will be supported on PCs but at that time, Apple will have to be the biggest company in computer hardware AND software to make it work like it does now for all its customers.
Regarding your comment about 'mass adoption' bringing security issues to the table... You're aware that OS X not being able to hold itself if it was mass adopted is an actually huge issue? Security by obscurity isn't a good thing. Never was, never gonna be.
I too wish OSX would one day grace the PC market, but we all know how many drivers would need to be rewritten for OSX so I don't see it happening (officially).
Keep up the excellent work!
no, Apple will not release a PC version because they are a hardware company, the software is made to sell the hardware. if they released a PC version they would have to up the price enough to make up the difference of not selling the hardware.
in short, there is no PC version because it would ruin the company.
stability is not the issue. Linux is also incredibly stable and also has a driver shortage. The Mac OS doesn't have to be ready for different hardware, the hardware makers have to stop using windows poor design as a crutch for their shoddy drivers.
please, if you know nothing about OS design, don't tell us about it.
A nice DIY.. some detailed information may be more helpful
Why doesn't Apple release a version for PCs... hmmm. It could be that they figure people will pirate it like Windows (surely, why not? If you do what this article suggests, since it's already illegal, why would you buy Leopard to do this?). Could be an inability to support more than 3-4% of the "PC userbase" (customer service/tech support). Could be they make all their money on selling overpriced crap? Could be they can lack support for a shit ton of hardware, since they only need drivers for hardware they sell. But ultimately it seems it would make it super-duper-uncool to those nazi-like Mac-fanatics.
Oh, another one, they realize that selling an OS seperate from the machine is fucking stupid! Historically retail OS boxes don't sell well, OEMs that come with a machine is where they'd make money. But then they'd have to let other PC makers put OSX on their machines. But that would again make Macs super-duper-uncool to the nazi-like mac-fanatics.
Tangents anyone? Sure!
What really makes Bill cream his pants is all the Mac users that pretty much exclusively use the MS Office suite... except they do it on a Mac. Oh sure, there's iTunes! Maybe they even use Safari if they're a few bits short of a byte.
But alas, what do I see Mac users running? Internet Explorer! Outlook, Excel, Word.... And these are people who prefer using Macs strongly over a PC. I just don't get it. But I still consider these types of users a few bits short of a byte.
I think the biggest preference comes from the short-cuts people become familar with. Then the niche group of Audio/Visual users that haven't realized PCs can do anything A/V a Mac has been able to do for well over a decade.
I need to get me one of those Mac mice with the ball instead of wheel. Those are nice. Too bad it costs over $50 for a damn mouse. And it'll probably explode when I attach it to my Windows 2000 machine. Anyone got unlock software for Mac mice? j/k
And they have plenty of drivers -- thank you open source. They're better supported, and are far more stable than the useless proprietary crap that Windows makes you put up with.
Its the lack of drivers and such that keeps it nice and speedy on apple hardware because they can strip down the kernel so much.
You want a Mac, go buy one. Simple, FFS.
The well known stability comes from precisely that - Mac OS knows the hardware it's running on. Big whoop.
think of all the driver complains windows has, i think it would translate to OSX on pc toooooooooo..... just my thought.
That's just it. With the exception of how they boot, a Mac is just an Apple branded PC. The important hardware is the same. The whole Mac vs. PC dichotomy is artificial. Apple makes their money by building a great OS and tying it to their boutique hardware. If you want the OS, you have to buy a Mac (in theory). The main problem with that is that people like the OS but not everyone wants to buy a premium case and mobile parts. Also, with the smaller hardware base, there are only legit drivers for those parts that are used in Apple computers. If someone wants to get another piece of hardware working, they would have to write a driver or a wrapper to make their hardware work under OSX. Depending on what parts are in your non-Apple PC, you will have better or worse luck getting devices to work. Since Windows is designed to run on a large hardware base, there are many more Windows drivers available. One problem with this is that having a larger hardware base means thousands of possible configurations and higher chance of instability is the price for your hardware freedom.
cd ..
cd Volumes
cd Patcher
cd files
Sure, or just cd ../../Volumes/Patcher/files
./9a581PostPatch.sh
I assume you would need to chmod +x to make it executable that way.
sh 9a581PostPatch.sh should work otherwise.
Shell scripts "normally" don't execute via a perl command.
Having said all that though, thanks for the how-to.
You've done a fine job of taking a difficult subject and making it easy. Kudos to you! :)
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He traducido al español este tutorial; chequéenlo en unblogged.net
Thanks in advanced,
-Ryan
Leopard was released....or should I say, shipped/leaked two weeks before the official release. It made it onto the internet that day...
The two company's aren't even in truly in competition (Zune and iPod aside). Microsoft creates primarily office and os software. Apple creates computers and the operating system that runs their hardware it would be like saying Coca Cola is better than the company that provides most of the sugar syrup to the soft drink industry.
http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/1403802/6...
Don't talk about the stock market unless you know what your talking about. The share price of a given company's stock cannot be directly compared to the price of another company's. Take the share price and multiply it by the total number of shares and you'll see your mistake.
The only reason you will see Mac OS coming on to PC will be when Apple will be compelled to do so, like when it happened when Safari and iTunes came to windows.
An Apple computer will run 10.5 and Win *. Sweet!!
I still use my PC to convert audio and video to a format that will work on my Apple computer and Nano.
I have as many computers as I want to have. Maybe some night I will open a bottle of Pinot Noir, Roll a fatty and see if I can boot Leopard on a Dell or something else that would be cool.
This whole horses are better than trucks thing really depends if you are on pavement or on grass. I prefer to have both.
Sometimes it is fun to drive the truck into a little bit of dirt.
Sometimes it is fun to ride the horse into town.
You should be careful about pledging your loyalty to anything. Especially if that thing has stockholders and a marketing department.
Things do change. The revolution will end yet again we will still have choices I hope.
I really never liked Linux but I am happy that it still is an option.
If the truck (MS) and the horse (Apple) both decide they don't want to play someday then walking (Linux) will absolutely still be an option.
It may hurt like hell for a while but won't sitting in front of a truck or behind a horse hurt worse?
....I do own an Intel Apple and a AMD PC. My horse has a truck in it?
I use Linux for cracking wep.
I did not buy anything from the open source community. If I was to pay money for software they would be the first to know.
Trust nothing. Try everything. Be creative and have fun. When you are dead you will be visited as often as you visit your dead. You will be missed as many minutes per day as you miss your lost.
Change things around. Try every new way that you want. These operating systems did not come out of a vacuum. Mutation, imitation and evolution are the best things that ever happened to you or them.
Just one opinion. Get a tattoo if you are really sure.
For ex: will Leopard boot on a mobo with an Intel 965 chipset ????
'Uhh can i have XP and leopard on my PC at once. Can i boot my computer up both ways?'
of course you can... as long as your personal computer is a current mac...
What?
Have you ever heard of something called... an iPod? an iPhone? a little thing called Final Cut Pro? or Logic Studio? Hmm. I mean, really, it's not cheaper to make an iPod than a computer... and they don't sell 100X more of these products than they do computers... and they don't make a killing off of every iPhone sold AND the actual 2-year agreement.... [sarcasm]
Selling OSX for use on PCs would not ruin the company. Quite to the contrary.
And, by the way... Apple is a hardware company selling overpriced crap? I seem to recall two programs that were industry standards in their respective fields [Avid, Pro Tools], and Apple made SOFTWARE that was so full-featured and ridiculously low priced compared to those two programs that it FORCED Avid and Pro Tools to DRASTICALLY lower their prices.
P.S.~ According to the Evil Steve Jobs, Apple is a software company. [See D5: All Things Digital 2007]
The answer is : Both.
And Apple doesn't only sell Macs and its OS but don't forget they make money through iTunes Music Store too. Moreover, Apple has just launched its WiFi Music Store. What a business.
Imagine how much money they made with these:
iPod/iPhone + iTunes = $$$$
MacBook/iMac/MacPro + OS + .Mac + iWork = $$$$$$$
* Though the .Mac and iWork are just optional products, Apple still made money through them*
Quicktime Pro = $$
Airport Extreme Base Station = $$
In a nutshell, Apple is a hardware/software/music/accessories company.
Done!!
I can't agree more. I believe that Apple Inc. is not a company that sells OS X to the masses. It designs and produces it's own type of computer and should have the right to retain it's operating system within this circle.
Apple is a very different company compared to Microsoft which produces operating systems for other computer companies to install in their own machines.
Many still do strike up the common topic of Apple competing with Microsoft even when they are totally different types of companies--alike comparing an apple with an orange. But anyhow, I'm honestly against OS X (PC). It's like an oxymoron.
But anyway, I respect the speed of the hackers in churning out this crack. What is done is done (:
I don't understand what apple osx to download.
Help me guys :D
In short, Apple is for the elite, PC is for the rest full stop. So stop stooping so low as hacking a Mac OS to run on PC. Get a Mac.
Supporting the plethora of devices that Windows supports, creates a code, test, and management nightmare. That, along with the poorly architected OS architecture, the registry, DLLs, and the myriad of other problems in Windows, creates the mess that is Windows.
With almost every file format that a Microsoft application produces being proprietary (vs. almost every file on Apple being open standards), Windows is a far more closed environment than OS X. Hardware is a commodity - the cost comes from the total costs of managing the environment over the lifespan.
I hope that Apple NEVER comes out on generic PC hardware - if it does, my IT costs for OS X are going to be on the par with Windows, which means a 400% increase in IT budget requirements.
Saying apple is a hardware company and not a software one is overly simplistic. In short, Apple uses the hardware profit in order to be creative in their research+development division.
Macs are generally for a dedicated user. Are they good at all those things that PCs can do? Absolutely. Sometimes better. Hell, mostly better. But for some people, they are also proibitively expensive. I can't afford one. I sure as hell want one. But I can go to Dell right now, pick up a $1000 dollar computer with pretty impressive specs, and walk out the door satisfied. Okay, yeah, there's the Mini Mac. But, still, over a grand with a nice display and peripherals. Even AT a grand, the Dell still has a leg up.
Apple makes more money because they sell EXCLUSIVE, EXPENSIVE products. Plus, who really buys any other DAP? The iPod owns that particular scene. There IS no competition. The SHUFFLE sells a crapton of units, and it's a very un-user friendly product. I have absolutely NO NEED for an iPod Touch. At all. I have well over 80 gigs of music, and probably 10 times that in movies. 16 gigs ain't gonna cut it. But I still want one. Oh so badly.
Don't really know my argument. I do know that MS put out a killer gaming system. Maybe the most fully realized gaming experience, ever. Can't fault them for that...
>But the margins on hardware are crap to begin with, especially compared to the margins on software, and the sales of OS X for beige boxes would more than make up for lost hardware sales.
not for apple - they usually sell their hardware for twice the price they buy it for from the manufacturers like Quanta etc. Double the win by just adding "some special software" that turns beige box into a mac - the point is the synergetic combination of hard- and software. And that's why Apple will never ever release an OS X for the crowds. They already did that in the past and they learned: licensing MacOS to thirds is just a crappy idea.
Now, how did that make you feel? Sure, for most of you it isn't true. But remember that the nonsense that a few of you self described geeks are spewing about Apple and Apple computer users isn't true either. Grow up and try to actually join the rest of the world in something productive for society.
not a patched.
please tell me or mail me the instruction to install it on pentium 4 processor.. not mactel...
\and with dual boot to windows Xp
The PC world is an anarchy. Anyone can make a motherboard, a video card, a nic, a hard drive interface or a power supply. As long as the device meets the uniform standards it should work. But it isn't quite as simple as all that. Microsoft engineers are forced to keep a huge lab of PCs so that they can endlessly test Windows against the myriad of combinations that are possible in the PC world. A sad truth little known, Windows has lines and lines of code that get run only in the presence of specific devices so that Windows won't crash when a poorly specced but popular device is installed. Or when two otherwise ok devices are installed in the same computer.
Apple avoids this by controlling the design process. While PC fanboys and cheapskates complain that Apple is thwarting their desires, Apple's supposedly closed and proprietary system allows Mac owners a far better user experience - hardware and software. And that is why we Mac fanboys are willing to pay a premium. Because we know the value of things, not just the price.
By the way: Apple is a software company. It is all about the software!
Apple ALREADY did the clone thing and it nearly bankrupted the company. Microsoft can AFFORD to allow their OS on multiple platforms. They ONLY sell software!
Allowing Mac Clones always was and always WILL BE the stupidest idea in computer marketing!
Seriously guys, look it up.
http://www.archive.org/details/MacClone95
Here is a hint... before calling people "dumbasses" you may want to ensure that you aren't a dumb ass yourself.
The share price for a given stock is not what determines which company is "worth more." Microsoft's share price is lower than Apple's, but Apple has less shares outstanding.
It is called market capitalization. I'm sure you can read about it on Wikipedia.
Just so you know, Microsoft's market cap is currently 329.34B (according to Google Finance) while Apple's market cap is at 161.12B. Looks like Microsoft is twice as good as Apple right?
Unfortunantly there is more than just market cap to think about when analyzing the financial situation of companies, and things are not so simple.
but ppl are sure gonna install to see how it feels and looks..........thousands of enthusiasts install linux on their PCs everyday but very few actually continue to use it as their main OS
I found that a PC (and the software for it) just couldnt cut it. I thought it was the software and tried ProTools for PC. Couldnt get it to run right or record anything reliably.
I saved some money and I just made the switch and bought a Mac Pro about a month ago.
Ive never been happier. Runs stable, secure, doesnt crash, and doesnt bother me. PT runs beautifully. It does what I tell it to without 3 confirm & warning dialogs. Money well spent.
So i wondered if it's really more expensive. I spent about 3800 on my mac pro setup. A similarly spec'd rig (dual 2.66, 2 GB ram, 250GB system drive 500GB storage, 23 HD display) is nearly $500 more through Dell.
screw dlls & the registry.
It would be more accurate to say that Apple is a company focussed on what the consumer wants/needs.
What a lot of shitti comments. Apple OS X ist based on Unix. No way for a PC Version.
By the way: Apple is a software company. It is all about the software!"
you fucking idiot: unlike microsoft, who is a software company, apple is a hardware company.
Very few people (whether they be Apple or Microsoft fanboys) understand this, but it's a simple fact which explains a lot of Apple's 'strange' behavior in the software market: They're not in the software market! They have a long history of abandoning software suddenly and without explanation. (Hypercard anyone?)
Every time Apple has tried to make a serious go of it in the software market, they screwed up.
So why would Apple want to sell OSX for generic PCs? It's just not their market. Apple's clone license policy in the mid 1990s nearly scuppered the company. Steve Jobs tried opening up the hardware monopoly (and failed miserably) with NeXT, he's not going to make the same mistake again with OSX.
Even Safari and iTunes for Windows exist primarily to sell iPods. Microsoft is NOT in head-to-head competition with Apple except with the Zune.
Microsoft is in fact attempting a similar model with Zune and XBox. It's working well with the XBox...
You can't get a Macbook for less than $1100. People talk about crap PCs, but who spends that much for a PC notebook? I sure as hell don't, my HP book cost me $900 and that was high-end, and the thing is dynamite so far despite my running Vista.
A more than adequate Acer notebook costs about $500. Maybe if Apple could figure out how to enter the same price range as PC's they'd get a little more love.
can I use latest AMD processor (phenom??)
If you things working please let us know, and there was anything that gave you a slight problem then let us know what you did to get rid of it..
Also this hack is only for Intel PC's and not AMD ones..
As soon as a fully-patched DVD lands online, I'll be all over this bad boy.
Anyone who thinks it's easy to run an app off a thumbdrive that MUST be named correctly is missing the whole point behind the philosophy of the Mac. Namely, that using a computer doesn't have to be complicated if the engineers are doing their jobs right. So, if you think 18 steps are "easy" why are you bothering with Mac OS X? Upgrade to an OS that suits your expectations: Vista.
But if you'd like to use a computer that doesn't fight you at every turn, get a Mac. That's right, a Mac. Why? Because a computer is more than an OS and Macs are made by engineers who do their job well.
Someone got OSX Leopard running on a PC, aren't you impressed? I am. They're not being rebellious, they are just playing and tinkering. Some people like to tinker with stuff, it can be fun.
But no need to get all religious about it, and tell people your arrogant narrow/naive mindset of what you think people should be doing.
Smile for once. Go get yourself a latte. Or a cappuccino with a caramel shot, you'll love it. Have a nice day please.
It's really easy to prove it for yourself. Look at AAPL financial statements. See how much they make on hardware. Note that it's around 30% and that most of their sales are in the $1000 - 1500 range with some significant numbers above $2000. On the base model MacBook Pro they make $600.
Now look at what HP pays MS for a copy of Windows. It's something like $50. Notice that 50 goes into 600 twelve times. That means that for Apple to simply break even on the loss of MacBook Pro revenue they'd have to sell 12 times as many copies of OS X. Given that they already have close to 20% of the market for >$2000 laptops, they'd not only have to put OS X on every single one sold by every manufacturer, they'd also have to grow the market to double its present size.
Having to support so many hardware configurations would easily triple the cost of making OS X, thus forcing roughly another doubling of sales to make up for it. Of course they'd have to implement some drastic DRM to slow down piracy which would further drive up costs and force even more sales. After all that consider what Microsoft would do in retaliation.
So in exchange for the current MacBook Pro sales Apple might need to sell 50-100 times as many copies of OS X into the current high end laptop market just to break even. What part of impossible don't you understand?
Windows XP 4ever?
Puhlease. It might be 2002 for you, but we're doing great here in the future.
Go ahead, run your torrented version of OS X on your McPC.
According to this hack, it is just as easy as installing Vista.
LOL
If you're too popular, you'll get diseases.Better not go out....
Elite OS my A$$...
How do you find it working with different hardware setups, especially with different graphics cards than those shipped with current Mac-models? What I have read, it seems that you can't put e.g. GeForce 8800GTX to a Mac Pro on the place of the lame GeForce 7300GT because Tiger does not support the 8800GTX (if you have Ubuntu installed on the same Mac, you can use the GF8800GTX on Ubuntu, but MacOSX don't boot until you change the lame graphics card back).
Therefore the question is that does the Leopard support better cards than those sucking default card on Mac Pros? One of the reasons why I have only a Mac laptop is that it makes no sense to buy a lower spec (supposed to be more capable) Mac than our living room PC (which has GeForce 8800GTX 768 MB) which is running Ubuntu just, to be able to run OSX. If the Leopard works with this card, then this gets a lot more interesting (of course the PC is not that stylish and fun as Mac, but anyhow, I could then maybe give a try for this hack just for fun, at least I could then verify if I could get someday a Mac Pro with a proper graphics card on it or is the driver support as bad in Leopard as it is on Tiger).
2) PC != Windows
The "PC" platform is very much so supported by the Mac OS X operating system, in all of the senses that it has been proposed to me.
First of all a PC is just a computer which is not a mainframe (which is really an outdated concept). Second of all that means that any processor architecture can be a PC -- this include PPC, Motorola, ARM and x86.
This also means that you don't need Windows, or any other operating system, to claim to have a PC. In fact, if you have any computer that's not a mainframe, you can say you have a PC.
Mac OS X runs on x86 -- in fact I doubt (I don't know) that you can get 10.5 for anything but x86.
In step 1 it said I need to format a usb driver to FAT32 and name it Patcher, I guess PATCHER and patcher won't work, it must b Patcher right?
But I got a problem, no matter how I tried to rename it, format it again and name it Patcher, it helps me to rename it to PATCHER! all CAPS! why is that? Could somebody please help me out?
Thanks
Isn't that like buying a Corolla just so you could put a Porsche engine in it?
Wouldn't it be smarter just to buy a Porsche?
thanks to whomever the generous soul may be :)
Stay windows people. We don't want you. In my experience most (not all) PC types are short sighted and judgmental "Mac sucks blah blah" bigots who have never even used a Mac since grade school.
Most Mac people have used both, are subjected to windows every day at work and know first hand which is better.
At my work, JH (the boss man) is slowly coming around to the fact that the Macs we use just seem to work, while the PCs work only if we constantly fight off viruses and bugs and accept the fact that tech help needs to be called every three days (and we only have 5 PCs). He got Dull PCs because he was advised to by his IT brother in law. Those computers are absolute garbage, and by the time we took delivery of the last one there was an audible groan in the office when they saw the box. John gave it the username 'POS'.
He's still paying for them all and they're already out of date.
Meanwhile I have a startup business and I don't want anything Micros**t in my company. PCs have cost JH dearly, but hey, they were 'cheap'.
Cheap, yep. And crap.
thanks
I assume nobody's actually tried to do this.
You can't fit 6.5GB onto a SINGLE LAYER DVD as stated. How many DVDs will people ruin trying to follow your explicit (and incorrect) instructions?
This likely needs Tiger installed already. Every bit of info on OSx86 implies that it does.
How can we format our partition/extra drive in HFS+ in Windows?
And it sure is a Software company.
There is no such hing as a factory or plant for Apple hardware. Asustek, the same company that makes Asus motherboards, is responsible for making Macbooks and iMacs.
That being said, Apple is definetely a pure software company.
Cheers!
Looks like the Flash Drive, or at least u use an iPod, doesn't to be formatted to FAT32.
It's impossible(?) to name the FAT32 driver to Patcher, it will always change to PATCHER for no reason! No matter how hard you try! And I found that formatting the Flash Drive to mac os (journaled) (I forget exactly what's the name of the file system, just try any other file systems that enables you to use not only the CAPITAL letters is find) will work too! I tired it last night and now I am running Leopard on Hackintosh happily!
Oh by the way I also tried to modify the patch path in the postpatch.sh file, from Patcher to PATCHER of coz, and it won't work!
Good luck.
Mac hardware is fully supported in the windows operating system when Bootcamp is installed.
This is only making things go the other way, with less support.
Though PC's are cheaper, Apple has made some of the most powerful machines in the world.
Running Bootcamp, I can play pretty much any high graphics game available for PC. All on an inch thick 2.16 ghz black macbook.
Go buy a mac, it's more for the money.
A Dell is made when you paid someone else to put together a hardware configuration for you.
A Mac is made when you paid someone else to put together a computer for you.
1) Steve Jobs knows what it is like to sell an OS for IBM derived PCs. His company NeXT sold OpenStep for PCs. I saw the booklet of compatible hardware configurations. It was over 100 pages long. It specified specific combinations of hardware that allowed the PC to be compatible. Otherwise you were on your own. Would Apple want to support a multitude of different hardware configurations if they didn't have to? Absolutely not. Instead they support a well known set of hardware resulting in an optimized, integrated system of hardware and software. You can't do that on a PC. Example: Despite Microsoft's best efforts, plug and pray lives on. Only Macs have reliable plug and play to this day. (And yes, that does include the Mac Pro towers).
2) Mac OS X has no viable malware for two reasons:
(A) From the ground up it has UNIX quality security. Apple do indeed sometimes play catch up to Open BSD and Free BSD security features, but they get there eventually. Only these two UNIX variants have a better record of security than Mac OS X. No, Linux does not.
(B) The Mac hacker community is not malicious. It is deliberately helpful. When a hacker digs for and finds an OS vulnerability, it is common to then create a proof of concept piece of malware than can abuse it. But in the Mac community that is where the story ends. Nothing is released into the wild, at least so far. Even the two master hacker / FUD meisters Kevin Finisterre and IBS (or something like that) who held The Month Of Apple Vulnerabilities never wrote a viable piece of malware.
3) One of the great and stoopid anti-Mac myths is the 'security by obscurity' nonsense. The fact is that if you add up the 55 old Mac OS malware plus the 9 proof of concept Mac OS X malware, then compare it to the total amount of malware for Windows, you find that there are over 80x more malware on a per user basis for Windows than Mac. What that says to me is that an awful lot of people have it in for Windows, OR Windows is incredibly insecure. The problem most certainly is NOT the lower market share of Mac OS X. (Note that I do consider Vista a quantum leap improvement by Microsoft in attention to security, at long last).
4) Apple have always been an integrated hardware AND software company. That is how they started with the first release of the Apple II and that is how they remain today with the Mac, iPods, iPhone, Apple TV, AirPort Base Station, etc. Most of the peripheral software they write has been for their own hardware, with the exception of QuickTime, iTunes, AppleWorks, FileMaker and a few other odds and ends that also run on Windows. If there is one key word to sum up Apple it is: INTEGRATION. That is one of the engines that makes their products top-of-the-market quality.
5) Apple already tried selling Mac OS 8 for 3rd party hardware. The vendors included Power Computing, Motorola and UMAX. It was a complete failure from Apple's point of view. First, it lost Apple profit. Second, they lost control of the hardware platform such that many of these 3rd party machines were known for their problems. People keep trying to compare Apple with Microsoft like once could replace the other. No! The two companies are fundamentally different. What we need is another Apple and another Microsoft so we have more competition in the market! As I am ever saying: Competition is the father of innovation.
6) People like to compare computer prices merely by comparing shelf prices. That never worked. Add to that ROI (return on investment) and TCO (total cost of ownership). If you fish around the net with Google to understand these concepts, then take a look at every total price comparison between Windows PCs and Macs, you'll find that Macs have always been LESS expensive. The 'Elite Priced Mac' is a myth. The price comparison studies will tell you why. One reason is again, integration.
I'll keep my Mac with Apple hardware and integrated Apple software, thanks. I learned computing on DOS and Windows PCs. That's why I stick with Mac. And when something better comes along, I'll defect to them as well. ;-Derek
I still hate macs, even though they look nice, pcs still own with xp and vista lol.
-s = Single user mode
-v = Verbose mode
Except for my very first computer, I have ALWAYS built my own computers and like to have MY choices of what I want in MY computer...
if not, does it work with Athlon 64 X2 6000+ 3,0GHz - 2MB Cache(thinking of buing that)?
1) This is an achievement on the part of the people who made the hack. They're tinkering, they achieved something quite difficult and they want to show the world. To those Mac Zealots who are getting rabid about it, take a chill pill and let these guys have their hobby time - most people who do this probably already own Macs and just like the technical "wow".
If you're not a techie (and most Mac users aren't) then you might not "get it". It's not about being a Mac person or a PC person. It's about being a tinkering techie.
2) Hardware vs Software company. The answer is neither. Apple is what economists call "Vertically Integrated". That is, they control their own business segments from top to bottom.
They're a brand based product oriented company and provide everything for a branded product including hardware, software, services, education and support. They sell the "whole widget" and the services that go with it. Apple is a Mac, iPod and iPhone company, not a hardware or software company.
3) The big lie is that Mac OSX is stable or secure at all. Mac OSX and Windows are about as stable and secure as each other when put in the same circumstances.
The Mac simply isn't put into a lot of those circumstances. Why? The PC actually comes with a lot more capability at lower levels. Microsoft ships a lot more software, hardware and library functionality than Apple does. A lot more developers *use* that functionality on Windows, because there is a lot more user demands for different things.
Most software you see running on the Mac is the same few heavily polished software packages from big engineering houses (Apple itself, Microsoft, Adobe) or custom small end user window dressing (i.e. pretty front ends to a database or web service). This gives Apple engineers a limited path to tighten up to make the OS experience solid.
But having developed software for Macs, I can tell you that they're no great shakes in stability or security. It's pretty easy to screw the whole OS or add in back doors. For example, there is a known way to deadlock DNS lookups (even in Leopard) which will stop every program that waits to lookup a server name doing its job.
Operating systems like OSX and Windows are huge pieces of software, they have bugs and security holes galore. Anyone who's worked on a huge codebase (including me) will tell you it's always going to have them, because humans have a limited capacity to find them.
That said, the worst cause of PC slowness and stability problems is usually crappy bundled software that comes on PCs like Dells. When an IT department builds and tests a Windows XP image and deploys it on the same PC you buy at home, it runs faster and more stable.
the question is: why someone hate apple wanna try it's State of Art operating system on different hardware...
I don't get it,
anyway my brandnew macbook can run both wincozz XP and the amazing leopard, and this is made possible by apple inc. with BootCamp
you WinGuyz stop wastin' your time... GO WORK and save to buy a real Mac ;)
or if you are simply sick of MS try Linux... it's a midway...
leopard on a PC ... LOL ...
OSX - Smaller userbase, claimed to be solid (well of course it is because it has less people to cater to), less drivers and expandability, a LMAO-firewall attempt on Lep
Windows - Ginormous userbase, hacked serveral times (because its in the hands of every hacker), driver support for 99% of products on the market, a little behind on the GUI, ahead on security and flexibility
The argument "Mac is for media, PC is production" has been phased out, Mac tries to keep up with the outdated versions of Office, PC tries to keep up with Media Center and such.
The argument "Macs are cute, PCs are ugly" have any mac users ever seen an alienware, a falcon northwest, a liquid cooled super computer?
One thing I can say MS has pwned Apple every round...Price. Apple uses its proprietary shaft to get every dime (in most cases thousands) from people for an Intermediate style PC. You can get dual-core PCs for less than $500 these days, add your widescreen, GPU, extra ram and you are around $1000. Which is still not near the base price of $1200 for a Mac.
Microsoft and Apple will always be a debate but clearly the arguments made are becoming too close to ever call a winner.
I try to understand why that the drive label must be "Patcher",
and how to rewrite the the drive label ??
my e-mail is jcoco@126.com
please!
Eric: just take off the things you don't need, like some drivers and languages.
To winfags saying how Mac sucks: Why the fuck are you reading this?
To the people trying to find out how to do this: Wait a while for the hackers to develop a better way to do this. This requires a dedicated PC specifically for Leopard (no dual-booting) and driver support is going to be sketchy at best.
Doesn't this article PROVE that it was hacked within a day of being released? Correct me if I'm wrong, but that points to "less secure" if you ask me....
I don't know if I could ask this question here or not.
does anybody know where I can download a "leopard".
I found some rapidshare links but I don't have an account yet and I cannot pay for it. can you help me?
press f12
boot from cd-rom
boot from cd...
then.
it show "press any buttom if you want to install macosx"(about this -.-)
then i press spacebar
Darwin loading x86 (about this -.-)
when it finished . my computer reboot
but i cannot select Language and make sure you select Customize and you need to deselect all the packages that are displayed.
what happen?
can somebody help me please?
should i plug in my USB drive?
Are you frickin' retarded? Hacking an OS just to INSTALL on non-Apple hardware is way different than hacking INTO a running OS to do damage (virus, trojan, etc.)
Windows users really are stupid! Still using the same old 1987 arguments to say Macs are crap (too expensive, no software, not secure, only for graphics, etc.). No wonder they all still love their outdated Windows OS'es and MC Hammer pants! Do some research and get the facts before you spout off.
You MS luva's don't have to continue to live with the problems you have in Windows but have learned to accept.... there is a better computing life with OS X!
Like I said before, drop the old FUD lines and do some research for once.
AND HOW TO MA THE PATCHED DVD PLEASE HELP WITH THAT.
THX =/
jumpershare
There's a bunch of other services, google it!
What were they thinking trying to stop canadians from going on demonoid??!
Thank you and sorry for my bad english..
Stephane :-)
Thanks!
What a pity
Architecture now...
only change bios and mobos ... single to hack one so to one pc a one mac, ok,ok,no very single is ... hard xD its guys work much ^^
MINIMUM AND RECOMMENDED, PLEASE?!?!
Thank you
How everyone is smart:) "They aren't making it available for your bull PC cause they can't support it". I didn't get it the first time, the second time, ... , the fiftieth time...etc.
You want osx? Buy a mac!! Plain and simple!
Wanna play with hacked version? Play with it, but don't ask for support and don't complain about functionality!
"CANNOT FIND BOOT BLAH BLAH BLAH, LIBARY/PREFERENCE/SYSCONFIG/COM.APPLE.BOOTP.LIST
aNY IDEAS!!????
I read all the comments regarding Hacking.
I've assembled PC with Asus motherboard and Core2Duo Processor. I installed the OSX after downloading from the one of the forums. The image size was 6.6 Gb. It installed without any hassle and is running without applying any patch.
Mac (and other UNIX things like Linux ofcourse) IS safer, windows was never made for internet, xhat makes security wasn't te point. UNIX is made for internet.
So face it: windows ISN'T as safe as any UNIX-system.
Windows is more used (because of a good marketing tactice (or luck) and is was cheaper (I say was, windows vista now isn't realy cheap)) so it's supported more.
Me, I think windows quite sucks, because it's expensive, vista has nothing new (free beryl for linux is even better), is expensive and is one big bug.
If I had the money i would buy a mac and dual boot mac & Ubuntu (linux). Now I use only ubuntu, windows is too useless and it always want to remove my linux, so I just removed it.
i have no idea what this means can someone help me with this? thx alllot!
By the way, I have processor Intel pentium M 1.5 GHz, 512 RAM, ATI Radeon 5200
First of all, this is a terrific thing. Period. I am a IT professional, and I manage Windows Networks. I recently got to see Leopard in action on my brother's Mac (with his 30" widescreen monitor!). Understand me, I am a Windows guy inside and out, but the Leopard thing had me wanting to put a Mac on my desk at home. I am preparing a fresh Intel PC to build my own MacIntel PC. Will I dump Windows machines? No. Do I think one is better than the other? Depends on what you are doing. But I would like to say this: I find it a bit amusing but mostly quite sad that so much energy and time and emotion is spent by people slamming this OS or that OS, claiming that what they use is the "best", saying that MACs suck or Windows suck or Apple sucks or Microsoft sucks, screw Bill Gates, etc, etc, etc. Who cares? What difference does it make? We can speculate all day long as to why our brilliant minds think that Apple won't sell a PC version of Leopard, but guess what? Unless you work for Apple on the top floor, all you are doing is generating hot air and speculation. Instead of all this bashing and chest thumping, why not put your energy into learning more about and using the absolutely amazing array of technology, hardware, software, and operating systems that we have freely available to us. The sky is SO the limit in what we have today, and more importantly what we cannot even imagine yet to come. Put down your picket signs and get on some computing! Stop wasting space in places like this where true computer enthusiasts come for valid help and information, and are forced to sift through all sorts of useless, opinionated, MOSTLY uneducated, biased crap.
I shall now put away my soap box. But not before I give SERIOUS KUDOS to the guys that swiftly made available what i think is a bitchin OS.
gitm (ghost in the machine, since the first Apple and the IBM XT)
1.Did all your software, drivers and programs work?
2. Are you able to dual boot with win XP or does leopard install over XP?
3. Can I use a external HD (in place of the Flashdrive) and creat a large partition and install leopard on it?
Thanks
it says ERROR: firewire unable to determine security-more; defaulting to full-secure.
some line
Root device is mounted read-only
and some other lines
when I try to access the flash drive it wont let me
thanks for your work
Pablo
Tom
1. Linux
There's no question Linux is the better OS, have you dumb-asses even seen Beryl in action? PCLinuxOS is probably the best distro IMO for those switching from OS X or Windows. Having seen the demo's on YouTube and all around the internet there cannot be any doubt Linux with Beryl, etc. is the better OS. Now that doesn't mean the applications support is better but just that over-all the OS is much more impressive.
2. Windows
Although it does suck sometimes Windows just has to much freeware and other software to make it deserve the Winblows name. It has every possible piece of software you could ever want already written & waiting, all you need do is download it. Exactly how were you planning to extract images embedded in .mp3's using OS X or Linux? I'm sure you weren't because it's impossible! What about extracting things from .swf files, yea as far as I know that's only possible in Windows. There is so much in Windows you can't do on any other platform, that's why people steal it!
3. OS X Leopard
This ones unusual, it has a few good points, it runs well, but the lack of software is a burden. Now it certainly would experience a boom in development if it were suddenly made available to the PC market, that's partly why it should be. I support the idea of distributing this on PC's, not only that but I think it's needed for the OS to survive. Windows has to much of a foothold on software to really be thrown off track now, but with the release of this on PC's that could change.
Now many of you are lacking intelligence so let me explain this clearly, OS X Leopard is an OS, it can easily be distributed as an OEM only for PC's. This would allow Apple to control the distribution channels for it... in other words they could just sell it for specific bundles, they could name them PC Leopard Bundles or something. There they could sell the OS with some Apple hardware but using Dell or HP as the distributers. This way Apple would know precisely the configurations it would be on while avoiding the pitfalls of selling the OS outright. A win-win for everyone.
But no, you are all to blind and stupid to realize such an easily accomplished goal. Anyways I'd rather use PCLinuxOS with Beryl than either of the other two :S
When it comes down to performance vs cost.. macs suck big hairy steve jobs balls. their lack of customisability makes them weak systems.
i wanna try osx out to see if it's idiot proof setup is worth the extra cash.
everyone in my industry swwears by macs, has the same indie outfit and frequents the same coffee shops. i personally prefer espresso over cappucino.. i want my caffine in me without the crappy creamy veneer...
thats why this project is worthwhile... it will help me figure out whether i can tolerate the un customisable crap that leo saddles you with. if i can... i will buy a mac (tho i will never be a faggot - read mac user - cos i see my hardware and software as tools)... not social movements. i just want the most efficient tool for the best price.
one thing ive noticed about the mac users here... they all get really stupid and insulting whereas the windows users tend to be alot more open minded. why this is... maybe the wind ruffled their hair or they spilled cream on their macbook matching clothing.
remember.. its not what you have and what you run on it, it all comes down to productivity this project allows users to tfind out for themselvves instad of hearing all the marketing bullshit.
kudos to all the hackers that did it.
Thanks in advance.
alexxxz@aol.com
i do have a 6.06 gb ".dmg" file but i have no idea what to do with it
i cant even convert it to ".iso"
Can someone please help me what can i do with the 6.06 Gb file?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Thank you very much!
I had some trouble installing on Intel's 945 Chipset, but it installed perfectly on a 965. Another problem I had was compiling the Patched DVD from the original. Having spent a lot of time trying to fix the script I realized the problem was with the bash shell under Leopard. This is therefore very important: the scripts were written to run under Tiger not Leopard! After installation it ran flawlessly.
I think it was very appropriate that the opensource version of the kernel was called Darwin. Now MacOS has evolved to fit a new ecological niche previously occupied by Windows. This new Darwin/MacOS Hybrid will lead to the eradication of the windows species altogether. It is the survival of the fittest from now on.
Why not just get a mac?"
The main reason is price.
My laptop:
Dell Inspiron 1520 (15 Inch laptop)
4GB Ram
Nvidia 8600M GT
160GB 5400 RPM
Intel Core 2 duo 1.5ghz
Windows Vista Home Premium
Price? $2500 AUD
Equivelant Apple Macbook Pro?
Price? $4000 AUD!!!!
I've done correctly the install step, but when i've to patch it i can't see my usb drive at /volumes .
I think that i've to mount it but i don't know how.
Someone know how i can do?
Thanks a lot!
1) Will some Microsoft software work with this? (Ex. Microsoft Office)
2) Is it possible to system restore this?
He is a genius! Bill Gates should get a regognition for the things he's done and his company microsoft, even If you don't like the windows os...
i'll be waitin'
It's also somewhat ironic to discuss the security of an OS in the comment tree for how it was hacked to run on unapproved hardware in less than a day.
It should really be licenced, but if so, then made sure to work on Intel PC´s. It really only needs driversupport for hardware not used or supported by Apple´s own Intel macs today. It does run just like any other mac as it is when all works, like ethernet, sound.
You won´t notice that you are not using an computer with an Apple logo on it.
Also, if you go and buy the Mac OS X 10.5, you have every right in the freaking world to do whatever you want with it at home on your comp. No company in the world makes laws!
If you hack it and patch it at home and don´t share that info, then it is NOT illegal at all.
Funny thing is, that on many Windows Vista certified machines or hardwarde, it runs better with OS X then it does with Vista.
If you like monopoly, and supporting companies that want to keep standards closed, then YOU are then one with a problem.
To say it won´t be as stable, and run as well on nonapple hardware is nonsense. An Apple computer is nothing more then a PC anyway.
It´s all Intel inside. Apple just does not use all the Intel hardware, and therefore some things needs to be patched or have drivers written to it, but it works all the same. Some people just don´t want to hear this because they wasted loads of money and bought a lie.
Good Luck to all!
I done the step 1, i have the "patched" DVD image called "ToH_x86_9a581_RC2.iso". I burned it to a DVD, and I booted it! But it "crashes"! In verbose mode I got this error:
Cannot apply 'mDNSResponder' profile: no such file or directory
I can't boot the installer :'( :(
Please help me! My e-mail: staben@live.it or vinci_vista@hotmail.it
MSN: vinci_vista@hotmail.it
Please, help me!
I have spent years on Windows and Linux as standard desktop environment. Recent jump to OS X has significantly boosted my productivity in all areas. (Development, IT, Engineering Student, Network Installation, Standard Office Functions) I'm not some fan talking about the good looks, the OS is simply much more intuitive then Windows and offers most of the functions near and dear. Natively forwarding X11 is even easier then Linux! I think spaces implementation is a little clumsy when compared to gnome/KDE... I also have had 0 downtime in over a year. I have never gone a single year in windows without needing to reformat for some reason....... I don't care if it is because of a small user base or proprietary hardware, I'm about the bottom line.
I don't know my specs so please don't ask me.
Please help.
E-MAIL- tyler3153@aol.com
Well, Apple sells computers, selects a few good hardware to put in and codes a nice OS with relyable drivers in it. That's one of the reasons why OSX is so stable and optimised : their coders don't waste time with drivers issues for all the crap available in the world. A commercial OSX for PC should work with all machines, even the wairedest, like my tower with a laptop Amd Turion 64. With all graphic cards and so forth... All that work to sell more of a less relyable OS and less of their (better) but more relyable hardware. Not speaking of marketing considerations like a blured image of Macintosh in the public (=non-geak) a loss of exclusive flair that came with the design, quality, and price tag.
Why would anyone PAY or have to do weird gyrations to use
either the Mac OS, or the million Microsoft virus/Worms/Trojans/bot/exploit infested badness?
Oh. I forgot. Some of you are masochists. Others are sadists. The rest love stealing.
OS X is just jazzed up unix, (BSD) it has drivers in place via darwin project , Linux covers drivers easy enough and is just as stable if not more so, I think Apple will release OSX for PC as it slowly releasing all its apps, quicktime itunes now safari.
Vista is forcing price reductions on hardware, making the mac look poor value
People should try a modern linux (kubuntu great) before OSX, there not much difference once you remove aqua.
If like gloss KDE4's out soon.
Why pay for software, spend it on hardware.
I made download but wasnt write "patched for PC" or anything else... I ve open the rar, and it make in .dmg. Its mean, that I need make a new download, version patched? Thank you.
can you IMAGINE! Mac can't even support OSX on a mac.
If I ever have to ring apple support again i will slit my wrists.
Also i have the file TOH_x86_9A581_RC2.iso and it has 4.37 GB
Is it all okay ?
can i move straight ahead in the install process ?
thanks a lot !
My full specs: Intel Q6600, 2GB DDR2 800 (soon to be 4GB), dual SATA DVD burners, I'll put it on a 74GB raptor drive, and it would be nice if it could read/write to my 2x 250GB RAID0 drives, a creative sound card, and video capture card.
This is very exciting, I've been wanting a mac for a while, but the price has always turned me away. Thanks for making this available to us!
can someone email me and tell me where i can download the files needed for it at hpotter936@hotmail.com thanks
I need the
# The Patched DVD Image
# The zip file containing the patch
I have an HP Pavilion dv6375us with Vista.
I've already downloaded the patch and the torrent for the DVD image, called osx-leopard105.dmg (6,66GB).
The question is, how do I burn this to a DVD? Firstly, it is not on .iso format, and secondly, it is too big!
Please help me.
Thank you in advance.
Sebastian.
MSN: base29@hotmail.com
E-MAIL: sebastrauss@gmail.com
To make it short: Windows XP systems in average are much more stable and faster than Mac OS X systems. This is especially true when you compare both systems on the very same hardware, in this case the Intel Macs. OS X requires on average more reboots than Windows XP. Vista is about on par with OS X Leopard.
What Windows does NOT have is that annoying rotating beach ball that appears on OS X all the time.
As for the reliability of the hardware: Anyone here ever heard of the notorious G5 freezes and the OS X "grey screen of death"? Anyone ever saw a "grey screen of death" while trying to watch a DVD on a PowerBook G4? No? Then you never used a Mac, fellows, or you are still in the 'denial' phase.
Usability: Well. Leopard has made a multitude of things WORSE. Try using the download stack when you have around 40 icons in your docks on a 20" screen. You won't even be able to click on anything in the download stack anymore. Dashboard has always been a useless piece of crap. Microsoft stole the gadget idea much better from Konfabulator than Apple did. What is Exposé good for? You better thake that "replace folder" question in Finder literally - which is the stupidest concept since the invention of file management. I almost never want to replace, I almost always want to merge, as Windows Explorer does it. Talking about the Finder: It got better in Leopard, but it sill sucks big time in general. Even the overhauled and crappy Windows Explorer in Vista does a better job.
And where is Java 6 on the platform that "makes Java a first class citizen" and claims to be the "best Java platform ever"?
And where are all the "secret features" Steve Jobs teased us with. I still haven't found one.
Apple hardware is cheaper than a comparable PC? That was true in the first weeks after the switch to Intel, now it is only true for Mac Pros. Apple still has the advantage that direct comparisons are not always possible, because there are almost no iMac-class all-in-one-PCs available. On the other hand: Why should they? The basic PC concept is to offer expandibility, something Apple just does not want to offer to their customers. People would not "upgrade" to a new iMac every two or three years if they could just upgrade its hardware components, now would they?
Apple is selling a chain of closed systems, and the company does not like to share their cake. Microsoft acts very differently: The follow the "share and rule" approach; they let everybody do what they want as long as they can collect their Microsoft tax.
There is a lot of beautifully designed software available for the Mac, and usually that software offers much more usability than the competetion on the PC offers. However, it comes at a premium, and on the long run, you are much better off with the freedom of the PC.
The PC is not a supermodel as the Mac, but it knows how to cook, does the laundry for you and it certainly does not limit you to Windows or a certain hardware configuration. The PC gives you choice.
After three years, I am no longer a "Mac-Fanboy", and I am no longer on a mission to talk other people into buying a Mac, either. Since January, my Mac at work is the perfect working horse -- with Vista. At home, I dual boot into Windows XP only for gaming. (Gaming - now that is something Mac OS X is the worst imaginable platform for.) I've purchased so many expensive software licenses for OS X in the last three years, that it would be financial suicied to switch back to PCs.
Chances are, however, that I will buy an additional PC for gaming and real world programming (another area where OS X plainly sucks; Objective-C is deservedly a niche language, and Cocoa is Mac-only and therefor useless for me).
I will probably go on doing photo, audio and video processing on the Mac, because some of the software that I have is from Apple and thus Mac-only. However, Adobe would probably give me crossgrades back to Windows, which would make sense, because their software is actually faster on Windows. So maybe I will slowly migrate back on the long run, but I haven't yet made that final decision.
Now about Hackintoshs: I can understand that many people are curious about it. But it is illegal, and OS X won't give you ANYTHING you cannot have with a current GNU/Linux distribution. Try Fedora Core 8 "Werewolf", for example. This distribution is much snappier on your hardware than OS X Leopard (yes, I have tried it on both my 17" PowerBook G4 1,67GHz 2GB RAM -and- on my 20" iMac Core Duo 2 GHz with 2GB RAM) and it even looks a lot better. The new Gnome desktop effects really make you "wow". Both OS X and Vista just look old in comparison. If you don't need commercial software like Photoshop or Final Cut Pro to make your living, go and learn to use open source solutions like The GIMP! or whatever else is there that you might need.
I believe in paying developers for their work (and that is because I once worked for a software company that went bankrupt, but you can still download our products from the edonkey network).
Do not pirate OS X. BUY a license and then fight with Apple over the "only for Apple-branded hardware" paragraph. Chances are that the current Apple EULA is not even legal in your country. It most likely isn't in Germany, because you do not have the chance to read it before you open the software package. Another reason is that in Germany this kind of bundling hardware with software is also not legaly binding for end-users (refering to the so-called "OEM-ruling", in which Microsoft lost their case).
People also should not hack any form of product avtivation. It is better to make the vendors suffer by neither buying nor distributing their crippled products. Of course, in the business world often enough you do not have an acceptable choice to such crippled software, so you have to buy it, because you need it to make money.
However, I do not see any reason at all why a person needs for example a Citrix Terminal Server, an Adobe Creative Suite or Microsoft Office for private or hobby purposes at home. Do not pirate. Get and use the cheaper or even free alternatives.
I have a HP dv9000.
I have 17" Screen.
I have 1 SATA 100 GB Drive.
I have SSE3.
I have AMD 64 X2 @ 1.60 GHz.
I have NVIDIA GEFORCE GO 6150.
I have 2 GB PNY OPTIMA RAM 5300 DDR2-667/533/400.
QuestionS:
Will HP drivers work.
Will I need separate HD.
Will I be able to use the same HD on another Partition.
Does it need to be FAT32.
Can I use an External Drive.
Will I be able to run Microsoft Games.
Will this work on AMD.
You lost me at FAT32 Formatted USB/Pin Drive. You stopped there, and talked "DVD" for a while. "USB" Drive never came up on the rest of the procedure. HELP ME OUT.
THANKS! EMAIL ME!
MAC OS9 sucked.. sucked bit time. 10.x is damn good OS, a real OS. Although I still spend most of my time in shell logging into servers having he GUI for processing my photography projects, communicating with pals and frankly.. just enjoying the thing, I can't understand how any could tout any M$ Windoze product.
I'm no Apple appologist, they do plenty of crappy anti-customer stuff IMHO. However that does not detract from the fact 10.5 is a real joy to run.
funkydude
Reasons for doing this:
Curiosity would be #1. I doubt anyone would invest in applications for a pirate/flaky OS install, but they'd sure enjoy the novelty of seeing it run. I'd bet most will operate it for a few days, maybe install FireFox, a few shareware items, just to claim they have it. If, a big if at that, their install ran with absolute stability (probably because they have otherwise compliant hardware), they might continue using OSX as if they had a real Mac.
Another group might be doing this for alternate development. Shareware authors might load this in a VM, along with XCode, in order to build Mac versions of something they want to release. It could serve well enough to at least package an installable application.
OSX for sale outside Mac hardware:
I read along here that Apple is doing fine as they are, they're a hardware company, etc. In my view, Apple is a design company first, hardware second. Most of their current revenue growth is from iPod and iPhone. Computer hardware sales have not been quite the cash cow of late.
Apple's designs, however, have stirred world wide interest hardly like anything else, specifically over the iPhone and the various iPod variants. Everything from the look and feel to the click of the connectors is considered and reconsidered. Design is the heart of what they do - all else descends from that.
Hardware is a necessary component of the product they sell, and so the product on store shelves is physical, but it's value and marketability is not in it's physical presence - they're not just widgets in an inventory. The attention to design detail makes them curiosities, unique in the world of products they're compared against. Even with some design flaws, the overall balance of every product conveys a personality something like that of a Mercedes Benz.
In Japanese quality control 'philosophy', their approach to the science includes the net 'negative impact on society'. This concept means they consider everything from quality vs price vs utility. If quality is too high, price is too high and impact on society is a net loss (unaffordable). If price is too low, quality is too low, and again there's a net loss (un-serviceable for the intended purpose). Balance achieves the least net negative impact, that optimum point where price/quality/utility are as good as it can get. Lexus, for example, leans toward the quality end at a slight sacrifice of low pricing to suite a particular client base. Honda and Nissan balance somewhere toward the middle.
Apple, it appears, leans toward quality and innovative utility, like Lexus, servicing a particular client base of some affluence.
For OSX, it IS a means to an end in providing a computer that does what the client base wants, with a feel of quality not found in any other computer product line. However, like the physical components of the machine, that's all subservient to the notion of design. What they sell isn't simply an operating system, neither is simply a unit of hardware. They're selling a design - it's the only thing they can make unique about the entire thing.
OSX is technically Unix with a graphical API inset within it that defines the user's experience. The components that make that aren't unique over, say, X or KDE - from the engineer's viewpoint. It is from the user's viewpoint that this is a unique product. Similarly, the hardware is all made by other companies - all commodity parts - even the PowerPC (despite Apples' input on the design, it was 95% IBM's product as it followed the ideas of John Cooke). The RAM, the drives, all but the case are made by the same 'other' companies stamping out parts for every other hardware box on the market. The 'feel' of Mac hardware comes from the design of those details you touch, like the connectors, the buttons or even the artistic design of the case. Dell could make it, too - they're clamshell cases are really quite good hardware, but they don't have the Apple design.
Take the OSX out of the Apple hardware and put it on a PC, you only have a small part of that design. You'd realize quickly that 99% of the personality you encounter as you use the Mac is from OSX - you'd THINK you're on a Mac, until, of course, you attach a cable, install another option card or look at that cheap beige case.
can wait no longer to get it installed on the Lenovo
thanx for sharing it
jasmine
tech-chek.blogspot.com
jasmine
tech-chek.blogspot.com
I am so tired of XP, It's so slow.
So I have no moral problem pirating and screwing Apple, because they're clearly trying to screw me. If apple didn't markup the Linux version in an attempt to force people to buy Mac hardware I might even consider getting a real Mac. But now this is a matter of principle to me, I don't appreciate underhanded pricing scemes, and will never give money to Apple.
i work for them and i have to put ther shit together and let me tell all you know it alls
that its the same parts as a normal pc with an intel motherboard with intel chipsets from 945 gma to 955 gma and p34
along with pci express ati and nvidia video cards
the only difference is they add a chip to the motherboard to limit os x it self
no there not a hardware company cause they use the same ish as asus ibm hp and dell
so kill all that mac is better then windows nonsense
there both computers that crash or hav'nt crashed yet
the reason that windows runs great on a new intel mac is cause they are good mother boards
thats it
if they made there own specific hardware they would have the market but they dont so get the point
i do admit that they are faster now that moved over to intel and ive seen more people buying macs now to
but still in all my dell has a legit version of os x 10.5 on it with out no hacks or patches and windows as well and windows blows 10.5 out of the water
and for you nonbelivers
my dell was setup by apple not dell
so you aint sayin nothing
its just like steve said there will be no video support for ipods and g4 and g5 processors were better then intel chips witch made mac os x faster then windows lol
can you tell us how to do what you did with your dell. i lean toward os x because it's seems more precise yet simple and not so cluttered. but if macs are made of all the same hardware (though their setup is very clutter free) then why would i spend a few thousand on something i can spend only a thousand. anyway just would like to know more. i guess i also have another question to anyone: what is the best linux,gnome, kde, etc operating systems. thanks
WILL THIS GUIDE WORK FOR A PC WITH AN AMD PROCESSOR???
thanks
only the uphuck 10.4.9 dvd boots and installs but will not boot once installed
the motherboard is a intel desktop board installed in 2000 and/or 2001
cpu is pentuim 4 i dont know if it is SSEn
256 meg ddr
agp rage pro.
i salvaged the computer from a dumpster of the local school they was throwing out so i have no idea of it is compatible
i guess intel desktop boards are not supported
these instructions builds the iatkos version witch causes kernel panics on booting of the dvd almost immediately as soon as the apple screen comes up.
i am giving up for now until i can get a new late model pc or a friend to help me.
Unit: Dell M1330
I also try to install Mac X OS on another Dell machine-D620. but the unit installed the WINDOWS XP before. i also followed the instruction,after successfully installed,system can not enter into Mac X OS after reboot.
Thanks
Cheers.
Smack your stuff onto an external.
Reinstall.
Put 'em back.
I have installed Leopard succesful, but when I want to begin with Step 3 (Patching) there is always the same error:
Root device is mounted read-only
Does anyone know the solution of this problem?
Please answer!
paradise
i ran the install...everything went fine...then it asked me where to install MAC...i saw a cd with a red x...i knew that was my dvd that i'm booting from...and obviously i can't install leapord on that...
but i saw no hard drive...
i went to disk utility and on the side where all the disks should be i saw my dvd again (that i'm booting from) but NO HARD DRIVE...
i don't know why...i partitioned it on windows and created a partition for mac...but nothing works...i can't see my hard drive...it's like it doesn't exist in the installation...
i have a SATA drive, not IDE...
please please help me guys, please ...i want this to work so badly...
my email = rezcroll99@gmail.com
please someone email me if you know what's wrong...thank you
The only way I want to port Mac OS X to a pc is that I may do Mac repair from my pc to Mac hardware, without having to buy an expensive piece of equipment, and be able to profit more from the people actually buy that expensive piece of hardware.
Question, if it costs more and it is rarer, will it cost more to service and or repair? To waste money or not to waste money that is the question.
P.S. I have owned a Mac before and the reason is that that machine was made to play with (it’s an expensive toy) could not get any production from it (waste of my money). All the tools needed are already made for pc not Mac. All you can do with a Mac is editing videos and pictures and is you don't pay the 5 grand they want you to pay for the top of the line Mac? It will still crash and hang, for it does not have all the bells and whistles.
any help please -> jozeaphe@gmail.com
- 1. a fully grown male leopard would not fit an a computer, or a D: drive for that matter...
-2. there will be a lot of complaints from customers that their leopard had injured them or escape their premasis...
-3. does mac supply us with the food???
-4. the leopard might scratch the disc...
-5. death...
I think the computer industry has taken technology to far... (including live animals into an operating system)
i would like to consult mr mackintosh...
What i want ot knwo is that if this is a dual boot version with windows
or if its jsut Mac on the computer?
And if there is a way to dual boot?
Thanks for the awesome tutorial. I'm a Mac-newbie so I'm not at all familiar with this process but I had problems like some of you and I found a way around them so I thought I'd post.
If you can't see your drive listed, try going to
UTILITIES->Disk Utility
You need to create a partition for it to install. On Windows, this is done with a prompt. I'm guessing this isn't done with a MAC. The rest should be self-explanatory.
The other problem I had was when I rebooted, after the install, and I took the F8 option and the -s mode, I could not get into the Flash Drive using the instructions. I had to type 'exit' at the console prompt and it booted back to normal setup screen. I believe that's what's missing in the instructions.
You should then be able to select the Utilities option to get to the terminal.
I ran into a problem installing the patch. I looked at the script and noticed that it was looking for the path /Volumes/Leopard/etc...
I created a partition called MAC not knowing that the script was going to look at the partition Leopard. So, I had to re-do that.
I also changed the Volume Label using a Windows machine and unfortunately it will convert all of the lower case characters to upper case. I got around this by editing the script to all upper case for the path of /Volumes/Patcher/files, which is stated near the front of the script file.
Hope that'll help someone.
And if i cant is there a patch that i can run an AMD cpu?
Guys Quick question:
- Has anyone found a patch for the integrated camera and mic on a sony vaio sz series. Am running leopard 10.5.1
- Anyone knows about any patch to fix the wireless (Marvell) on vaio sz running leopard 10.5.1
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Please guys if any of you has any idea, just post anything please, am going nuts! it just takes a second mate.
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If anyone needs help installing on vaio, ask me, am happy to help.
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Laptop: Sony Vaio VGN-SZ320P [120gb, 1Ram, 1.88Hgz, 2 cores]
OS: OS X Leopard 10.5.1
Sound: Sigmatel - WORKING (patched)
Enthelnet: Yukon - WORKNG (patched)
Cores: 2 - Only one working
Bluetooth: WORKNG
CD/DVD drive: Burn and Read WORKING
Finger Print Sensor: Not working
Boot up time: 13 Sec
--- Stability: Excellent!!! ----
Again comparing apples to oranges (no pun intended).
MOST IMPORTANTLY!
MAC OS X is PIRATED UNIX
WINDOWS is PIRATED OS/2
Unix and Ibm are the real creators except for linux distros (NOT MAC)
so everyone is wrong, no one makes their own stuff, ever.
I would like to mention to Apple Fanboys:
There is no more Mac vs. PC. The Macs' hardware wise nothing more
than just a quite average PC. Welcome to the 21st Century, today we all hope Mac OS X will be our way out of the Microsoft misery.
Wake up !
Mac OS versus Windows is on.
Want to know if it would work with SSE2.....and only supports MMX,SSE and SSE2
Thankyou
Thankyou
As far as software goes nothing in my opinion beats Windows. This is only because you have many more titles available to you than you do with other OS'S. And just about any program made for a MAC has it's Windows counterpart. Why would Apple come out with a dual boot XP and OSX box if this statement wasn't true. The only drawback to Apple OSX is that you don't have as many choices of software titles available for it.
As far as hardware goes nothing beats SUN (if you can afford it). I have a 10 year old SUN PC that is 64bit (and one that is dual 64bit) and has over a gig of ram. PC's and MACs are only just now offering that.
As far as the comment some guy made about not being able to record Audio with a PC without it crashing doesn't know how to set up his PC!! For your information at my last studio session, Brad, my Bass player used Cubase and MAC OS that damned thing crashed a million times and we ended up loosing hours of work.
For PC's I've found Reaper and N-Track Studio are great for multitracking and have all the power you need to make a great sounding CD. They both support a slew of great plugins. One thing you need to know is USE SCSI drives (or someone told me serial ata works ok too) to multi-track with!
Long story short if you like a MAC then use it. But don't try to make false claims about Macs only to try to justify paying more money for what is now basically a PC anyway.
Don't disrespect Windows, nor OSX, they both have different uses for different people.
Also, to the people who keep saying "just buy a f**** mac"......no, i don't want to.
My PC cost a hell of a lot more than a mac does, I want to be able to run the best OS on the best hardware, unfortunately thats hard to do at the moment - usually picking one means giving up the other.
So what i' trying to say is, just stop comparing the OS's, they both have good things and bad things about them....
I was going to buy a macbook today, but in the shop I thought it was too expendsive, I can get better hardware if I get an PC.
So I have decided to buy an PC and try to install leopard on in.
Now is the question; witch PC laptop should I buy? I would like every thing to work, at least sound, wireless, grafics e.t.c.
anyone wo knows? and please dont give me a resond like, -If u want everything to work, by a REAL mac e.t.c.
If you are an expers in the area or just happend to know what I need, plz sen me an e-mail.
regards Jensabrun@gmail.com
Problem solved for me. I started making more money without increasing my living expenses and now own an HP dv9000 Notebook AND a MacBook Pro. If I wanted to be stupid, I could by both computers each month, over and over and still be fine.
It sure sucks to be poor. I used to be a tinkerer, too. Spent a lot of time configuring, re-configuring, partitioning, re-partitioning, installing, re-installing, swapping hardware, downloading illegal software, OSes, etc.
Frick. Unless you're a network administrator, or a member of an IT/IS staff and you're a tinkerer, you're a complete loser with too much time on your hands.
Running Leopard on a PC?! Who the hell cares? Make more money, be productive and stop wasting your stupid time, tinkering and hacking.
Being poor sure sucks to hell and back, doesn't it? Hacking and tinkering keep you from making more money. I've been there and now I'm in a different place. Someone should've taken me out back to the shed and beat the hell out of me for wasting so much time.
I'm gonna take you out to the shed and beat the hell out of you for being so moronic.
What do you think your doing browsing forums and posting comments on the internet.....wasting time.
Tinkering isn't a chore Alan, its something people enjoy doing, because maybe they have inquisitive minds and want to learn about stuff, unlike you! n00b
cd .. (No errors displayed)
cd .. (same as above)
cd Volumes (same as above)
cd Patcher
No such file or directory.
I cant figer out why!
is formated as Fat32 with the right name. (formmated in my sis Windows)
Im writing from my hackintosh Tiger.
I need help!!!
Linux drivers work???
mi correo es: trawde@gmail.com
Thanks {Gracias}.
I’ve got a problem when I load in verbose mode It won’t load in Graphics Interface, its liike I was in the terminal. so I try to patch it anyway by typing:(I’ll put the errors hust the way they were displayed 2 me)
cd .. (No errors displayed)
cd .. (same as above)
cd Volumes (same as above)
cd Patcher
No such file or directory.
I cant figer out why!
is formated as Fat32 with the right name. (formmated in my sis Windows)
Im writing from my hackintosh Tiger.
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Before I have error like you ,Now I can fix it.Leopard detect thumb drive
label with All Upper of name
is PATCHER
hope this help you
cd PATCHER
I have Acer 6292..... how i can get leopard to install that machine ?
When i boot from dvd... there is only apple logo, but nothing happening :(
And yes... i have MacBook Pro too but i like to test how it works on normal pc hardware.
I think Acer 6292 should be quit close to macbook hardware:
- Intel core2duo T7300
- 2 G DDR2
- 160G HD
- Intel X3100 vga
So i think that intallation should be possible?
if you know please type in you fucking google
OSX86 HACKINTOSH
THX FAGG
Thanks.... or not.
I really thought that i can ask questions in here, but i was wrong.
Sorry about ruining your day.
And yes i have tried to use google to find my answer but not luck yet.
Is there anyone else who can help me with out swearing, if no do not answer and you can just ignore my guestions.
Both mac/windows are good for certain things, and both have their advantages/disadvantages.
So stop acting like a bunch of tards and going on about how people who use windows are idiots.
how do we select MBR
It's my first time to install leopard
when the DVD boot, 1st time i let the leopard boot normaly, after 2 min I have only the apple logo,
in the 2nd time i chose the advanced boot, taping -v -x , i see many lines at screen, after 2 or 3 min, i have msg like " no such directory "
I have Compaq presario F735
AMD sempron 3600+
phoenix bios
HDD 100 Gb
I get an error when doing the PostPatch. At
[code]echo Adding patched kernel extensions...
cd $PATCH/ext
cp -R * $LEO/System/Library/Extensions
chmod -R 755 $LEO/System/Library/Extensions/* && chown -R root:wheel $LEO/System/Library/Extensions/*
echo Success !![/code]
I get errors for all the files that say
[filename]: could not copy extended attributes to [theOtherFileName]: Operation not permitted.
The installation starts, then it says select a destination to install leopard. And the dialog box beneath it is empty, how the hell can i select a destination? And the installation stops there itself, I cant do anything but keep watching the screen. I dont think there is any problem with the partitions or my HD, as xp is running perfectly. Please help me out, tell me what may be going wrong.
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Use Disk Utility in windows menu to mount your HDD.
mine system configuration is
Processor Intel® Pentium® D CPU 2.80GHz, 2800 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
System Type X86-based PC
Total Physical Memory 2 GB
ATI Radeon Express 200 series graphics
HDD 80 gb
CAN I INSTALL LEOPARD IN MY SYSTEM?
if some hardware upgrades are required for running Leopard on my system plz plz let me know...
himanish26@gmail.com
2nd Apple is a Technology Corperation that means it makes the software that matches hardware and makes the hardware that matches the software
3rd what does it matter windows is better in some things and OSX is better in other tings and Linux is better in the rest of things thair is a stupid debate about what OS is better then the other, You can play your games cant you ? you can do your graphicle designs cant you ? you can programme your work cant you ?
doest it matter? NO poeple get thair work done on either of the 3
windows is for games
mac is for designing
Linux is for programming
i do all three and i see non the better
thay are all great in what thay do
just be happy for that
4th for everybody saying crap about the poeple (hackers and programmers) who do thair best to bring poeple things like this, shame on you for talking about them i do not see you doing that, it takes great skill and nolidge to understand and program something like this and i hope you break your clicking finger or something like that shame shame shame!
Good job on the patch guy's/gal's
keep up the hard work
Cheers for the patch, Dominance
Please drop in your views on the guide.
Because of microsoft´s monpol you need these applications..
the worst thing is the "live messenger for mac" its really a piece of crap software, but even amsn and other applications can´t do the job,,
Microsoft shuts apple out with making a "degraded version of it..
No suport for webcam and voice/ blink/nudge / sharing folder. and much more..
I am new to the Mac thing and I've heard they're good in video editing, audio editing and picture editing. The problem I have now is what machine should I get? I am leaning towards the desktop PC for practicality while Mac's is a must-have for my productivity. This site is Heaven-sent! And I hope I could combine both but I need to ask some questions.
I need to ask what are the minimum specs for running Mac Leopard OS into an ordinary desktop PC.
What are the advantages and disadvantages to expect if I do want to try.
TIA!
i couldn't read all comments for now. but doing analyzis of markting strategies and at the same time conect them to the wishes of should or could be possible wents to be a hard work to deal with. for now i would like to say there should be no relgious wars between the systems, those we allready haw in the real world, which doesen't even make the world easier and at the end of the road a computer is a tool to make life easier, isn't it.
but for now enough of that stuff.
i'm using a macmini and made bootcamp and was for a littel while frustrated about the nonsupport of the different file-systems. i found some solutions (macfuse with ntfs-3g and for the other way round macdrive [hfs-explorer from the swedish man doesn't realy solve the problem]).
so this is a dualmachine now.
okay but now i have a msi-laptop vr 601 023 ne. i bought i to solve problems about some very specific software to use to handle pictures. but i had problems to build a networkconectic and still have becaus this systemdaminstration is not realy my deal. therefore windows vista isn't easy to deal with. a bit more userfriendly enviorment would do wonders for ms.
so, now i want to install some of my old mac os x onto this machine because now i have two leagaly versions 10.4 and 10.5. I want to use the older one on the windowslaptop. but for now i run into the filesystem problem again.
so if there is anyone out there to direct me through the installation. maybe i could create my own patched disk from original mac volumes.
my 10.4 disk isn't even recognized by the disk drive on the windowsmachine and the 10.5 finds only the bootcamp installation drivers.
can anybody tell me how to create an installtion-disk with toast.
thanks to all anarchist and individualist.
fuck for corporated identity and design.
being a charachter needs more than this. it needs personality!
i'm not sure about this software you named.
one thing is the different filesystems ms and apple uses: ntfs and hfs+.
second thing is that there in my laptop only is one hd. so it has to be configurated as one of ntfs and one of hfs+.
so if that could work it out. which isn't describe on the site of acronis, if it is an native machinebuilder or an emulator.
if it isn't an emulator. i'll try it. but this one is commercial and cost in front of the price of an apple os almost half the ammount it.
but still on their site apple os isn't describe as supported.
do you know more.
i tryed to setup leo it took along time & i get a message of an error cause of :the setup programe do not find "epson printer drivers"
there is no epson printer connected to the pc .
i tryed again & again
still the same message
any one had this problem ??
http://blogs.csoonline.com/windows_vista_6_mont...
and see for yourself that indeed your deserted OS is steel more vulnerable than vista.funny isn't it? with so little community and so little hardware support and still so many holes.
now it should be obvious why some rational and educated person isn't going to use that piece a ... .
Firstly, that image key says it all - it shows problems that have been disclosed and then fixed, and problems that have been disclosed and not fixed, it entirely misses the ones that Microsoft have chosen to deny the existence of!
Secondly, i have had FAR more problems on my PC than my Mac, i use both, and i have never had leopard crash since it came out, and when i installed vista (on a PC with FAR above minimum specs) daily crashes were routine. In the end it annoyed me so much that i reinstalled XP.
Thirdly, if you are a PC fanboy you will save yourself a LOT of time and effort by not commenting on and reading mac sites. If you truly want to see why OSX is so awesome then try it yourself!
P.S. also that graph shows the stats for 10.4 (Tiger) which has been out since April 2005 (almost 3 years as opposed to vista's 1 and a half, which is far more time to find and fix problems.) 10.5 (Leopard) is by far Apples most stable operating system yet.
the MAC maniacs chose the Mac version , and I make a pc with the parts i Chose at same money value ... both with SO unix based Mac Os X / linux some distro and we test the both and the Mac users will see the diference and a real power of Pcs .. the problem here is Steve Jobs make Ferraris and Pc assembler make serial cars . the mac sell one unit the PC assembler sell one million its numeric question . sometimes the serial cars are good ...
Im running Ubuntu with QX9650 in one Mb Asus Striker with 4gb of CORSAIR PC2-8888 XMS2 DOMINATOR and 4 x WESTERN DIGITAL RAPTOR-X 150 Gb 10000 RPM Raid 0 (Hardware raid ).. and grafics are in charge of 2x NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600G PCIE SLI ...... Mac for wath ?
first where is the files for USB Flash “Patcher” and how big USB has to be SPACE?
Would this work on:
2.8 Ghz Pentium(R) 4
512 Ram
120 GB
32 bits
I have a gateway FX EDITION
Thank yoU!
http://mac.kbot.de
http://osx.kbot.de
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Amazing Resources for Osx86 (especially for AMD!)
Also, Sonu, If you try Re-Installing it it might help, as i know its the complete opposite, but it worked with XP for me.
ALSO, I am thinking of converting my PC to Leopard, but i dont know if its going to work, So if i post my system specs, will someone be able to Help? Thank You
PS. If someone can help i will post my System Specs then
So let me tell you this, first of all MAC OS is just a Unix with a very nice graphic interface, why don't you ask your Mac boys to open the source code of theirs interface? Why don't you wonder yourself why isn't the interface GNU as Gnome, KDE and the other ones.
And about the "just being good" thing let me tell you this. THE HARDWARE IS THE SAME, Samsung screen, Asus Mother Board or how they call it "logic board" and the rest of the components, you name it, the only difference is that they have a crappy chip in the board telling is a mac, so Leopard and the rest of the crap could work.
I like Macs, don't get it twisted, I'm just not blinded by Steve Job's magic tricks, something like .... wooooops there you go, a DVD burner for only 9999 U$D
bye
if you want osx, fork the extra cash for a mac. itll save you in the long run because apple doesnt charge 4billion dollars for software. not to mention that macs have shit tons of freeware. which means you can do everything for free. instead of buying umpty hundred dollar software that wont work after you install the newest version of msn
It is a unique OS as look at how many virus checkers you go through on windows, HUNDREDS. But then look at how many you need mac, Yeh, NONE, It has its own prebuilt into Leopard, and Tiger and whatever.
UNQUE KIDDO, VERY
listen fool
HP uses Asus Mother Boards, Dell Customize it owns, Gateway uses mostly intel made Mother Boards.
Core 2 Duos are all the same made by intel.
LCD are only made by Samsung or LG.
I guess we have a problem here, and is your no knowledge of computer technology or hardware.
Lots of RAM, what do you call lots of RAM? lots of HDD, what's that, talk with brands, models and prices.
Take a look at this, read some, study and then SHUT UP!!
http://www.psystar.com/
"how do you think they make this?
BECAUSE YOU MORON, THEY ARE BASED IN THE SAME HARDWARE SPECS, THEY JUST WONT BONE YOU FOR HOW PRETTY THEY ARE"
after you have finish that and some other reading on your own, then you come and post something decent here.
YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT COMPUTERS I SEE.
THANKS
i have installed Leopard walyway on my
sony vaio - vgn-fe11m intel centrino core duo T2300 - 2gb di ram - 100 gb HD - wlan 802.11a/b/g - super multi double layer DVD + /- / ram - webcam fotocamera integrata - bluetooth - monitor 15,4" LCD X-black - licenza XP Professional media center edition
but i have any problem with:
eternet, wi-fi, flash memory: don't word
monitor: the max resolution is 256 color
can you help me? tanks
here is something for you that has the whole osx x86 world right at your fingertips. after they are the creator's keeper on all programmers that made the extra solar planterium use of osx x86.
http://osxproject.org you choose your pill at top. isanelymac is a forum for all and everything osx x86 and osx86project is the wiki to all things hardware and how to's. be off with you to find your way there and learn about a whole new world of fun and exciting times.
http://osx86project.org
ok,ok guys....so, why Apple developes bootcamp??? and why mac users use winxp or vista whith bootcamp???
if you want to use windows buy a pc, holyshit......
It´s stupid. But you kwon...it´s your blessed company (Apple) who is more interest in run windows in their machines.......so why you come with this question?? ask apple, maybe they can respond to you...
how to hack other pc using internet?
If any body know please give a detailed explanation to my e-Mail ID vinothkannahmpvk666@gmail.com
i really want to do this, but still have to have windows OS to run autocad sometimes. can i partition my hard drive and install Vista on one partition and mac on the other???
at installing MAC OSX 10.4 Tiger I get always this screen:
http://www.abload.de/img/bgry1p.jpg
Installation always stops at this point. What is the matter?
Thank you anyway, keep up the good work!
1) MAC doesn't run on PC's not because Gates doesn't want to, is because of a chip that MAC hardware has that identifies if is the proper hardware.
2) Steve Jobs big buck is in selling the hardware at a premium price, that's why you have to pay big money for a shitty ass MAC mini, haven't you wondered why re they so expensive?
3) the BIOS system is different, I don't remember very well how they call it, the thing is that PC use BIOS they have RFI, thats why some people created the EFI emulator that emulates MACs starting process on PC hardware and with it you can get away with installing it.
All that made by APPLE of course, the NOT LETTING the system run on PC
Because you could get a better computer per dollar ratio if u get a PC and then put theirs shinny unix on it, moron.
Dont you know that MAC is just a UNIX distribution with a proprietary visual interface?
read some, do some homework, talk to your folks and then think twice before posting something stupid.
for all the Mac Lovers or people who may want to try it please look in torrents for the "KALYWAY" DVD is the one I use and works great with a couple tweaks.
Thanks
You're Pro-Capitalism aren'tcha?
These companies make extreme sums of money off of the hardware and the people who do choose to buy their software. The people who pirate hardly make a dent in their wallet. The companies just bitch about it because they can.
i.m from GER so if i write somthing wrong i hope u can apologys
i love the disgn of mac so im still trying to instal leopard on my pc but i have a promlem after the darwin installer is rady sceens a appel logo on my display and than its stucks... how long can it´s take or what do i wrong.
i hope sombody knows to help
THX
Which problems do I mean??
All virus, spy and all of these bullshit that are made to run on a windows system.
If it is possible to run Mac OX-10 on my laptop, I shall do it and I shall never return back
We all know how good Macs are handling the virus thread, same with Linux, there are almost 0 viruses written for those plattaforms. But what would happen if people switch from Windows to Mac or Linux massively? All kind of Spywares, Malwares, Viruses and who know what else would start populating those 2 plattaforms.
Yes, Windows is not perfect, but NEITHER are Macs or Linux boxes, it is all about statistics, it is more reliable to attack the system that the 90% of computers use than put your efforts into attack a minority.
Money transactions, gambling all sort of things go on Windows machines, with Macs pretty much all they do is the same but from a global point of view in a way minor scale.
Is all about success in these people minds and the bigger catch is in the more used system around town.
The more popular something become the more attractive it will become to code writers who would do anything to take advantage of the smallest flaw.
Just wait and see.
In my case I use Leopard because of how “cool” looks, because in the graphic design world Macs are the number one solution, but is all about style, at the end they all do the same, 01010101011101010101
Thanks
i tried to install leopard on my laptop. i've 2 partitions on it. one with Vista and the other is free to install Leopard. (both are NTFS)
after i boot with the dvd, the instalation starts, i choose the language to install, and in that part to choose where to install, it shows the 2 partitions but with an exclamation (!) saying that i can't install leopard in my PC. does anyone knows why?
sorry about my english.
Thanks
suppose you have to use hardware configuration similar to macs intel configuration to get it work ok with leopard
PCs ARE JUNK.
END OF STORY!!!
Someone knows how to install on Compaq V6210?
Thanks
The only reason I semi switch and now advocate (semi because I still use windows for engineering programs) the use of Macs was because I got an incredible deal on a G4 Imac. I bought the unit brand new for $450.00, kept it for two years and had absolutely no problem with it. I again had the opportunity to buy a Macbook with an intel duo upper edition for $1050.00, sold my Ibook for $750 (still amazed how it held it's value), and was able to get the Mac that could run XP for my special programs. I haven't look back since. My switch was all possible due to an inexpensive introduction. The Mac proved itself to me and perhaps others running it on a PC will see that too.
After i burn the image into a dvd, reboot using the dvd.
It says "cannot find config file /library/preferences/systemconfiguration/com.apple.boot.plist"
:( is there anybody know what to do?
thanks
do I need a formated harddisk?
How I have to format the hd?
what display driver I need for OS?
A REAL MAC has no command line!!
The majority of legitimate Windows installs out there were done by an OEM"
I take offense to this. All my machines are legit.
Getting tired of MS bloatware.
PCs ARE JUNK.
END OF STORY!!!"
Define junk.. My machines only mess up if I buy cheap hardware. I don't buy cheap hardware..so....no problems.
The Power Macs have impressive hardware. Leopard looks really good too..I watched the video on Apple's website. Good job Apple.
MAC > good software, stable, ***Shite*** at games.
Windows> insecure (just get a decent firewall if you dont have one ur an idiot, ive never had XP hacked in the last 8 yrs nor vista), games Ah yes games beautiful games strongest point, plus the shear amount of appications availible.
if it looks bad use a theme ffs. Vista more stable but has loads of fucking annoying shit that u have to remove.
customization simply put better than MAC as far as hardware is concerned u build it all your self brilliant! mac for simpletons :)
Linux> probably the most securest but lets be honest all its applications are Punny in Camparision to the same apps in wheater field for the PC and mac + gamming is a joke on linux.
linux is however decent as a server
whatsoever, i preffer the osx 'cuz it cannot be infected by viruses, and the stability is a base of the software
“MAC STUFF WORKS.
PCs ARE JUNK.
END OF STORY!!!”
Define junk.. My machines only mess up if I buy cheap hardware. I don’t buy cheap hardware..so….no problems.
The Power Macs have impressive hardware. Leopard looks really good too..I watched the video on Apple’s website. Good job Apple."
RE:
Junk may refer to:
Things
Scrap, metallic waste, or waste in general (American Usage)
Off-speed pitches in baseball jargon
Junk DNA, DNA without a known function for the organism
Junk (ship), sailing vessel of Chinese origin
Hard drugs, especially heroin
Junk mail, unwanted postal mail, typically from direct marketing operations
Junk mail, unwanted electronic mail, also called spam
Junk food, derogatory collective term for fast food and packaged snacks
Junk bond (finance), a bond rated 'BB' or lower because of its high default risk. Also known as a "high-yield bond", or "speculative bond"
A slang term for the male genitalia
Junk in [her/the] trunk A slang term for pronounced female buttocks
Stuff
Titles or names
Junk, by Christopher Largen
Junk (Transformers), fictional planet in the Transformers universe
Junk (novel), by Melvin Burgess
Junk (band), a British pop band
"Junk", a song written by Paul McCartney
Junk, the working title for the Burroughs novel Junkie
A nickname of the character Suigintou of the Japanese manga and anime Rozen Maiden, analogous to Desu for Suiseiseki.
Islands
Junk Island or Pulau Jong off the coast of Singapore
Junk, a tiny island near Hoy, Shetland in Scotland
or
Microsoft Windows is a series of software operating systems produced by Microsoft. Microsoft first introduced an operating environment named Windows in November 1985 as an add-on to MS-DOS in response to the growing interest in graphical user interfaces (GUIs).[1] Microsoft Windows came to dominate the world's personal computer market, overtaking Mac OS, which had been introduced previously. At the 2004 IDC Directions conference, it was stated that Windows sadly had approximately 90% of the client operating system market. The most recent client version of Windows is Windows Vista and has Microsoft already trying to develop a new operating system because it is such a horrible failure.
The OS X installed base would triple in a year if they made such an arrangement .
But Apple does not care. They make most of their money selling gadgets, not computers. And sales of genuine Apple computers would drop like a stone.
My dad would kinda kill me if I mucked up the Pc, so, is this safe? I would really like a mac, never mind leopard, but I'll take anything that's going ^^
Thanks, Katie.
x
Not bad, I think I'll try this out once I've saved up for a laptop (Currently using a shared computer). I'm guessing I'd want an intel processor on it, right?
Let's see.... install XP, create a blank partition, install OS X on said partition. Then follow up by installing Opensuse. Seems do-able.
Also, I don't see what all the hype is about. All these guys did was played with the OS a bit and shared it with the rest of the world. They just did what all the developers for Linux do every day. I congratulate them, and hope they continue onto the next new Mac OS...
Although, for me, the only reason to use a mac is for advanced working with multimedia. It falls short to the gaming (Windows) and general computer use (Linux), (I prefer linux). It's overpriced.
You can get this much Mac for 16000NOK (about 3000$)
3GHz C2D
8800GS 512MB
2GB ram
500GB HDD.
If you buy these parts yourself and build yourself/get some to build it for you, this can be had for under 8000NOK (1500$). So either, you're paying shitloads for the OS, or shitloads for the design/brand, which is stupid.
Yes, you are paying for design - but you try to fit that much computer into a package the size of an imac!! also it includes a screen (and apple are well known as having some of the best screens) and all the parts are very good quality and chosen to work well with each other and the Macintosh OS. Plus the aftermarket support from Apple is some of the best in the world, and also they aren't able to sell as many of the computers as some competitors so they have to price them higher - it's the law of supply and demand. Apple has chosen to target the higher market, and they do very well at what they do.
Not that i don't find the prices high, but there is a reason.
max os ... Did you mean Mac OS?
No Problem I found. Sum bugs available, these are also I got in Apple Macintosh computers. I am trying to upgrade to 10.5.4 and think, than everything will be nice.
Step 2: enjoy.
That's WAAAAAAAAY easier.
your leopard on pc installation method is perfect, but let me now
the original mac OSX Leopard DVD is not necessary??
can you give me info for this by e mail?
thank you
But ill stick with UBUNTU!
YEAH!
Now that you have got Leopard installed, you need to patch it. Before we do that Boot into the Leopard DVD like the way you did before.
Wait for the Darwin Bootloader to load. Once it loads up press F8. You should now see a prompt. Type -s and hit enter. The DVD will now load in Verbose mode. Watch for any errors. It should load without a problem because you have already installed Leopard.
Once the setup is loaded select your Language. Once done you should now be seeing the Welcome Screen. Once there navigate to Utilities-Terminal.
Once the terminal loads up, you now need to browse to your USB Drive, so follow the steps below, typing it exactly as it appears below in the Terminal.
In the command line type the following as they appear here
cd ..
cd ..
cd Volumes
cd Patcher
cd files
i cannot get past the -s it dose not to the terminal sreen and it say when go in a diferent way it will let type
cd ..
cd ..
cd volumes
then thats it it say directory not found when i type
cd patcher an cd files directory not found
an last ./9a581postpatch.sh
directory not found
http://mx.youtube.com/user/ellrojas (instalacion step by step)
Thank you
* AMD:
o Athlon 64 (since Venice Stepping E3 and San Diego Stepping E4)
o Athlon 64 X2
o Athlon 64 FX (since San Diego Stepping E4)
o Opteron (since Stepping E4)
o Sempron (since Palermo. Stepping E3)
o Phenom
o Turion 64
o Turion 64 X2
* Intel:
o Celeron D
o Celeron 420, 430 and 440
o Pentium 4 (since Prescott)
o Pentium D
o Pentium Dual-Core
o Pentium Extreme Edition (but NOT Pentium 4 Extreme Edition)
o Intel Core Duo
o Intel Core Solo
o Intel Core 2 Duo
o Intel Core 2 Extreme
o Intel Core 2 Quad
o Xeon (since Nocona)
o Atom
* VIA/Centaur:
o C7
o Nano
* Transmeta
o Efficeon TM88xx (NOT Model Numbers TM86xxx
I did a search on SSE3.
Kernel Stage:
Darwin Kernel version 9.1.0:sat nov17 02:56:34 sct 2007;
made by FOH:xnu-1228.0.2~1/build/obj/release_I386
please Karthik Kastury can you help me on this stage or any one having this problem who solved.
Well from the way I see things is you all are blaming Apple for not doing its part for drivers and Software for there system..
You all for get the all important that Microsoft is a dominating force and when they cornered the market most software developers run to join the band wagon so they don't get left out and loose out on revenue.
Its the old story of the big get bigger so they have a following.
Now Apple does not write all the drivers that hardware requires to run under there OS since other manufactures who are big enough and have the resources to have programmers to write drivers for the OS.
Now if you were to do the research and see exactly what was supported for hardware and buy each piece that was for Pc and would work with Mac then you would have a MAC in theroy.
Now we also have to understand that Mac is far more stable than windows by far but this is because of there strong back end which is why OSx the X standing for Unix makes it such a solid dependable base system. Now I am not a programmer nor an expert but I imagine that drivers that work under unix and linux like environments would work under OSX but there is alot to do to get to work I am not sure but I will be experimenting soon I hope :)
But now back to the real issues Windows is popular because of its software that it has lol thats cause the developers design it for the majority but as of late you see cross platform applications that run on both windows and mac and Linux/Unix systems also now you see more games being ported to mac now this is cause of a demand and the software developers of those games have the resources to meet this since they are big developers and make huge profit from the windows based users out there they can afford a few more programmers to port app and games to mac to maintain a status cwow with the big guns.. remember not so long ago we had OS2 from IBM well what happen its down to a small unknown select tight group of private developers now and banks like TD still use this os but there atms and stuff run on linux :) thats there backend.
Now if you want to see Mac on PC bug the hardware manufactures to make drivers and support Mac until we as a community Stand up and say NO more being told how to do things by certain beurocrats and other communist like people that make us do what they want by limiting our options.
If you had to choices to make money or stuggle what is your choice until we can convince and support others into staning up and saying we are not going to take it then Live with the choice you make.
I succeed by installing the hacked Leopard in my Dell xps M1210. Just I have to try the installation three times before realizing I need to select some kernel. Then just downhill walking. Internet, sound, other partitions recognized. By the way I have Mandriva 2008.0' and xubuntu also installed in the laptop.
I think that this is a good way to probe if I really want/need to buy a real mac. Thanks for this opportunity and great hack.
Javier
I need some help...
When DarwinX86 finishes loading the installer, and the "Apple" appears on screen, my computer reboot on its own as if nothing happened.
What could i do ?
Thanks !
Kike
I dont want to install on external hard drive
I'm considering buying a Mac, but then came across this cool site. I've been reading through the posts, but still haven't found the answer to a question I have:
If I install Leopard on a shiny new PC, will I be able to run Boot Camp?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Muttly
for intel
why dont the cunts just mac mac operatable on pc
thyed make shitloads of casdh
What are the system Requirements for Mac on PC?
Throw a link or something!!!!
please email me for more information
Thx, highly experienced hackers (JIOPO), CHINA SHANGHAI
i appreciate what you are doing here by supporting the non-expertise users, and i have a seriouse problem with my laptop.
i have a MacOSX leopard 10.5.2 for intel, i install it on my acer laptop that meets the requierments, after the installation the computer restarts and start the mac boot then i found the apple logo then the welcome animation, then it ask me about the region and the keyboard language, finally it ask me if i want to migrate my setting from another mac or a backup or none, when i select none and continue, it takes time and then starts the welcome animation and starts the same configurations again
Please HELP!!!!!!
How about either a PC version of the IPhone development software or a cut doown version of MacOS that allows me to run up the devel stuff.
Really FX? I think you're full of it.
Obviously you know NOTHING about Mac OSX, but you like to comment like you do. I happen to use both OSs and prefer Macs. Try to stay current on your Mac compatible software.
For your information, Internet Explorer is a DEAD BROWSER on Macs. The last version was 5.0 and was released in 2003! Microsloth has dropped support for it ever since Apple annouced Safari.
I highly doubt any Mac users still use it since most websites won't work -- i.e. any websites that use web 2.0 standards, which is most of them nowadays. Most Mac users use Safari, Firefox, or Opera, just so you know.
my pc is :
AMD dual core 64 2X 5200+
2 GB of RAM
and i will be more happier if i nkow how to install the mac leopard 10.2.5 on my pc
if anybody got an idea
i have 3.0GHz intel core2 duo processor, 2GB ram (trancend), 500GB HDD(seagate), DG33 Intel orignal mother Board., DVD writer (Sony)
when i boot the Leopard from the dvd it show only apple screen after waiting 15min still it is one screen (PC hanged) nothing will work numlock, DVD rwiter light is not blinking, even HDD light is also not blinking.
Please help me..... reply me on my mail...
Maybe this will help PC sales since many don't want Vista.
http://support.packardbell.com/it/item/index.ph...
It is a ixtreme j9403
THX
I am trying to install the OSX on my Vaio VGNFS93G. I get the Apple logo on the screen but after a few seconds it restarts the PC.
Any suggestions??
Thanks heaps guys
[[Xp 110gb][leopard 106 gd][HP_recovery 12gb]
i installed with no problem; i applied patch with no problem; but after reboot it only boots into XP doesnt even give me a choice to boot into darwin or OSX
I read your comment. The reality is that Apple do not wish to compete with Microsoft. Steve Jobs has said that time and time again. The reason I believe (judging from what I have read and seen) that Apple don't put OS X on any PC (remember they did clone for a while, google PowerComputing) is they don't wish to run down the same road as Windows with the countless compatibility issues. Apple build a machine and make it work with OS X using a few different brands and types of products to keep it simple. OS X and Linux are work for the hardware not the other way around. OS X works seamlessly whereas Linux as good as it is has some compatibility issues.
As for Windows.
Well....
I do not see you MAC guys crying over bootcamp....
Am I the only one who could care less what OS someone else is using? It's your money, use whichever one you want.
Please dont wast your valuble time to do this lie
It wasted my time
Useless
This is a huge lie
Apple have done what most politicians have done, talked and BSed their way into "the hot seat." Mac users tend to be retards that got infect on Windows because they failed to notice their Virus Protector, flashing the fuck in the bottom right corner going "DON'T OPEN THAT YOU FUCKTARD! IT'S A VIRUS!" So they blame Windows for their own stupidty.
Safari has so many problems it is not funny. The amount of back-doors you can use to get through it is just incredible. You will also notice that the FireFox version for Macs runs slower then Safari, this is because Apple want you to use their own products.
BTW, Macs get viruses via video codecs and once inside your laptop/desktop, they act the same like any old virus. Hijack your browser, phish you, destroy files, you know the lot. So therefore they are not secure. The reason why they didn't have viruses for a long time is because on a small amount of users used Macs and hackers/crackers/programmers thought "Why bother only getting 10% of computer uses when we can still get 70% of PC users and why bother having to re-write a new virus for a new computer?" It was just not worth it until people started to.
Another hint guys: OSx is devolped of Unix and practically steals the GUI of a lot of Linux distros.
P.S: I own a Macbook, I got it for the light weight, but I wiped all the software off it and put Windows XP on it and Linux redhat and Bluecat. I barely use it and am going to sell it.
PCs are the way to go. Apple can't get their own users so they've got to make fun of PC users when PCs are actually 1000x better then Macs.
That would be greatly appreciated.
whatever apple is
2 reasons no Mac 4 PeeCs:
1. U 2 stoopid to earn nuff $$ to buy Mac.. Must B, always bitchy-bitchy about how HI the price. Probly work cutting fish, play games all nite. big dumass.
2. Apple no want yer biz-nez, make them look bad, no like OSX used by dumass stoopid loserz. U stay PeeC, call evrybody Mac user bad names, live @ mommy house basement, play games, stink like fish.
2 reasons no Mac 4 PeeCs:
1. U 2 stoopid to earn nuff $$ to buy Mac.. Must B, always bitchy-bitchy about how HI the price. Probly work cutting fish, play games all nite. big dumass.
2. Apple no want yer biz-nez, make them look bad, no like OSX used by dumass stoopid loserz. U stay PeeC, call evrybody Mac user bad names, live @ mommy house basement, play games, stink like fish.
Could you do it and let us download from rapidshare instead of torrent?
Thanks
a nvidia graphic card 9500 with 512 mb
wich version of macos i need to word.
i already tryed :
idenb 10.5.5>> not work
kalyway 10.5.4
iatkos 51 and iakos 1 and really nothing is good
help me please...
thanx
Apple designed OS X to work with Mac hardware and that is just the way it is. Even if you go through a back door and get Leopard to work, it wont be as stable as it would be on a Mac.
But I have to buy a Hard Drive first.
i am gonna try this one from apple it is good chance to know more about apple practically,
my suggestion, to everybody here, try LINUX BACKTRACK
it is so cool
i think apple is all about artistic hardware, but stuCK when workin
forget fruits and M$,,, LINUX IS THE only one you need
I'd and will buy a MACos, its system is unique and i love it, the operating system and software is awesome im buying it for sure 100%
My goals are to be either an architect or game developer, and in my opinion this will be best suitable for me : )
de Antemano muchas gracias por su atención.
el mejor site prar eso es http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/
a este vine hace como un año cuando estaba en calzones, pero de ahi para alla el ke te puse es el mejor.
Saludos
I get to the loading screen with the apple logo...and absolutely nothing happens on my HDD nor DVD...
Hope you can help me...´
kind regards,
Kim
when i run the install i get stopped at a line that says:
IOAPIC: VERSION 0x28 VECTORS 64:87
i appreciate your help :)
When i test, it shows a apple logo and take long time (2 hrs).
What would i do?
shikhar485[at]yahoo.co.in
thanks.
Both implementation of virtual machines are free! What is Apple contributing to the crowd? Right! Expenses more expenses or more spending.
Sorry, but Steve Jobs and his slave made hardware sucks. I'm not a true believer to pay for the same stuff are already own, but that means I'm not an Apple user or fan. These people are? I don't know.
Hope it helps you too.
Apple SUCKS!!LINUX SUCKS!!!
I bet this is the easiest way to Install Mac OS X Leopard OSx86 on PC Dual Boot Windows 7, Vista in 9 Easy Steps
http://www.taranfx.com/blog/?p=1204
BUT cool u are a guy supporting filesharing, I am by principle against buying products from rich and big companies, because capitalism enslaves us all. Most people still wrongly think they would contribute to fairness when they buy any product in the store, but the money mostly ends up in the pockets of the already very rich moneygivers, and NOT in the pockets of those who actually MADE the product, whether it is music, software, or movies. We all have the absolute right on information, on culture and education.
That, the big moneymakers are trying to condition with money. So only rich people can access info and education. Info has to flow freely thru the world, but does it NOwhere at ALL. I couldn't afford to buy books at stores, and at the college library, the important ones were always already borrowed.
critical, good movies are culture, propaganda bush.influenced military-style stupid action movies are NOT. since 2000, most movies are total BS and propaganda. That they want feed us. lies. brainwash. but the really many good movies, they want to condition with money, as well as software and music. OH NO. I NEED to listen to a llot of music that is known, because I am a musician, but I can't afford to buy ANY virtual product. Sorry, no. In an online stream of the simpsons, I saw that Lisa downloaded songs for money, then she gets a 1200 dollar bill, suddenly, fainting. I NEVER EVER paid for ANY single download. I am SHOCKED how the economy EXPLOITS poor people again in MASS STYLE. Ah. greets to all net anarchists. Hasta la victoria siempre compadres.
Great news. But please tell me can I install it on my windows hardware configuration?
Thanks
Prashant
installation error occures
please healp
hahaha
Great Info!!
Step 1:
Buy a mac, it has OS 10.6 pre-installed and you can even run ms windows on it.
That's it you are done. Wasn't that easier? No hassles, no patches, no flash drives.
http://www.sysprobs.com/mac-windows-featured-post
This really shows that Macs and PCs are pretty much the same Sh#t...
Thanks to Apple for having us spend so much $$$$$ on there krap...
BTW, this would actually work if all your drivers are supported...ie Video, Sound, Network Card, etc...
If so, how can i patch the DVD without having to download the Patched DVD image?
Thanks
I have installed the iATKOS in my pc but it is now showing any boot option after the installations. and stuck with a blinking cursor with black background.
Should i do any thing else like pressing any other key to boot into the mac os.
Please help me.
Anyone can send me it to my email:apple.mac97@yahoo.it
Bye TY Very Much
saleiferis@gmail.com thnx!!:)
plz help..
prashantkagwad@gmail.com
plz help me..............
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